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Rafie said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, can't understand why he said that. Sony's slogan is "For the players", so there is no way they can be arrogance

I'm speaking about how they are arrogant in THIS particular instance. What are they being arrogant about? Arrogant isn't a word I would use to describe Sony in THIS particular scenario.

Yeah, it is not arrogant. Poor word choice, to be exact, it is ignorant



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HoangNhatAnh said:
Rafie said:

I'm speaking about how they are arrogant in THIS particular instance. What are they being arrogant about? Arrogant isn't a word I would use to describe Sony in THIS particular scenario.

Yeah, it is not arrogant. Poor word choice, to be exact, it is ignorant

Now that makes more sense.



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Rafie said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, it is not arrogant. Poor word choice, to be exact, it is ignorant

Now that makes more sense.

Yeah, Sony is ignorant. And you are agreeing with me, good



HoangNhatAnh said:
Rafie said:

Now that makes more sense.

Yeah, Sony is ignorant. And you are agreeing with me, good

Of course I agree from a gamer's standpoint. I also understand from a business standpoint Sony's stance. I definitely cross play. What gamer doesn't want to play with others. I was legitimately asking about their arrogance in this scenario. Not that they were never arrogant or I was defending them. I call out all big companies when they're wrong. I was really just curious.



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Rafie said:
EricHiggin said:

If your friends do the same job that you do, but they work for a larger corporation and make a lot more money because of it, which allows them to have more cooler stuff, then that is considered normal. What wouldn't be normal, would be if you went to their corporation and demanded they give you money so you could have lot's of cool stuff like your friends have. They might very well offer you a job, and you would be expected to take it if you really want what you say you want, but if you refuse for whatever reason, that company is going to tell you to take a hike. If you got on social media and explained this to everyone, they either wouldn't believe the story because something would have to be missing for it to make any sense on your part, or they would tell you to make a choice and either stay where you are and miss out or take the new job and get the cool stuff you want. This makes sense.

If you own an XB1 or Switch, but your friends own a PS4, which is the market leader, and they get cool stuff because of it, then that is normal. For you to go to PS and demand they open up cool stuff like cross play so you can play with your friends, wouldn't be normal. PS may offer you a PS4 or Pro, but if you don't want to purchase it for whatever reason, then they are going to tell you to take a hike. Then you get on social media and explain this to everyone, but instead of them telling you it doesn't make sense or that you simply need to make a choice, they all instead join you and demand that PS basically give you all cross play, or free money, just like in the above example. How does this make any sense at all?

Some people may be gullible, but there is no doubt that others are simply hoping for this to happen because it would benefit themselves now and potentially into the future at no cost to them. The truth of the matter is that there is no guarantee that this will always make things better.

If for example, PS allows it, but screws up next gen bad like XB1 did, and XB and Nin hit the nail on the head and absolutely crush PS5, that will more than likely lead to major financial problems for the PS brand. Which could hurt it in many ways, like maybe less and worse quality first party titles, or even having to put those titles on XB and Nin platforms to make enough profits. What would be the point in even buying a PS5 at all then? Don't you think at that point in time, all the PS fans will be bashing XB and Nin for pushing to enable cross play since that allowed anyone to buy any brand of console, knowing full well they could play third party titles wherever they want and not be enticed to buy a PS5 due to not having an enclosed system anymore short of PS exclusives? Should XB and Nin be expected to literally turn people away so the PS5 ecosystem can stay relevant and keep those fans happy whatever it is they may want? Do you really think XB and Nin would go out of their way to help PS in a crisis like that? Did the Wii and 360 help PS3? Has the PS4 helped XB1 and Switch?

While there are many possible outcomes for the future, cross play may be leverage PS requires to keep up their ecosystem as it exists just in case. Maybe, maybe not. If losing that leverage meant PS and it's fans would no doubt suffer in whatever way to some degree in the future, would everyone still want cross play to be implemented? I would expect not since it's all about keeping gamers from every platform as happy as possible, and an unhappy PS5 group of gamers would go against this thinking. While it's possible nothing changes and PS5 does just fine, what if it didn't?

Well thought out response and sensible.

This doesn't negate the fact that PS still could potentially allow it if they feel they have enough aces up their sleeves for the future. Cross play should be great for everyone and would more than likely strengthen the entire gaming sector, but anyone who expects PS to do this just because 'the cool kids' (XB and Nin) say it's the thing to do these days, doesn't mean PS has to, or is going to follow. Making sure their business is as stable as possible going into the future is the most important above all, without being too anti consumer because if PS ends up on the other side of the fence later on, another brand will be the anti consumer market leader and PS would in a way be at fault, letting their fans and the industry down as a whole. No different than how XB let their fans and the industry down in 2013, and has spent the entire gen becoming as pro consumer as possible to make up for it. PS did this to themselves once already, just in a different way with PS3, and they are going to be super careful before going down that unknown road again without spare tires just in case.



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I don't see what's wrong with "changing their mind." Using that as a way to downplay is stupid. It proves a company is progressive enough to admit their failures and change for the better, doing nothing proves only arrogance.




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Darwinianevolution said:

This made me laugh far more than it should have.



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Nintendo and Microsoft a match made in heaven.i never understand why people add PlayStation with Xbox together and separate nintendo.from now on they should add Xbox and Nintendo to one group and PlayStation to a special group.imo PlayStation should stay away from Xbox it's better for gaming as a whole.if PlayStation started to follow Xbox footsteps then PlayStation will develop less games and more online services.playstation already made a big mistake by making their online not free.such a huge missed opportunity.a lot of people in emerging markets are hesitating to even get a PlayStation.forget the cross play with your competition and make online free again.that would be a consumer friendly move not cross play.



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