Kaneman! said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:
Well to be clear I don't think anyone is literally asking to physically force the guy to bake a cake cause yes that would be forced labor. But that's obvious, I'm not sure how one could actually physically force someone to bake a cake LOL.
By forcing I mean law enforcing as in, if he refuses he gets fined which in the end goes along your last line: it will cost the owner money and perhaps business.
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But capitalism does that by itself, you don't need to impose a fine for something that would happen due to the economy anyways. If the vendor refuses to do a job, he loses all profits from that job, and presumably more customers due to his poor performance.
You don't need an additional artificial punishment for that.
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Well that's where we are going to have to disagree my friend. Capitalism takes care of poor business decisions but what happens here goes beyond a poor business decision, it's an open and voluntary act of discrimination and discrimination should be dealt legally.
It's as if some big company was caught in a corruption scandal and you'd say, let them be, capitalism is going to take care of their offense. Well I'm sure the USA would go after such company in some legal way because corruption goes beyond a poor business decision, it could be considered a poor business decision (or a good one if the corruption endeavor pays off) but it's also an offense as corruption is illegal.
Of course I'm assuming that discrimination is illegal in the US, maybe it is not, I don't know. It certainly is over here in the EU.
And even if we stick with the notion that capitalism will take care of it, it may not always be the case. a lot of bigots and there is a huge lot of them could decide to support the bakery and shop there or refer it to their friends to shop there. Add to that a lot of neutral people that doesn't care either way and thus will still go shop in that bakery. Still add to that the general public that may not have heard about the case and would go to that bakery without knowing the baker is homophobic. And that's not even taking into account the gay couple that decided to press charges, well they could have not pressed charges and then NOBODY would even know about the gay couple's plight. In this latter case, capitalism would take care of nothing and it would be business as usual for the baker.