Exactly! Mou tactics are overused, he doesn't know how to play football any other way!

I remember how tired and useless most Barcelona players looked before Frank Rijkaard handed Pep the torch. Pep turned the ship around got back on top with the same talents he inherited from Frank. I truly believe a good manager can make Man U a frightening team without additional signings. 

I don't think Mourinho has ever been so defensive. He's known for building a solid foundation at the back and pushing from there, but this United side simply doesn't have that strong foundation. That's why he wanted to buy a big name defender in the Summer in Alderweireld or Maguire.

Ajax had 70% possession, 17 shots to United's 7 and 634 passes to United's 285. United's first goal was a lucky deflection, too. To say that Ajax were never in the game is completely laughable. You either didn't watch the game or you're letting your United bias cloud everything you're saying.

Ronaldo won the Champions League, multiple Premier League titles, multiple other trophies and the Ballon d'Or while he was at United. He played alongside Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Rooney, Carrick, Scholes, Tevez and Giggs to name a select few. Nobody was complaining about Ferguson, Ronaldo and United through those years. What on Earth are you talking about?

Too bad for you we're not only talking about from when Mourinho took over.

Then you don't have a good memory it's how Porto played, it's how Chelsea played, it's how Inter played it's how he tried to make Madrid play.

Ahh yes the usual stats argument the's a difference between meaningful use of the ball and just passing the ball around in front of your opposition and taking tame shots not troubling them and if you think people weren't knocking Ronaldo during the Fergie days then sort your selective memory out as people for a while were saying Ronaldo was mediocre blah blah then he started scoring goals, people just like you knocked the team saying theyr would never be as good as the team in 98/99 then the team exploded and went on to go to 3 CL finals.

Maybe but the competition now for top 4 is a lot stronger than back then even with all their woes they've done well to be 6th in this day and age, Liverpool's problems back then were some what different though, they could have won the league at least twice if it weren't for two particular matches in one season and one slip up in another.

Did i see someone dissing frenkies term at barca? Imho he started a very good period every trainer since has profit from

Things are heating up here so I'd like to point out I don't hate United and I actually liked watching them during SAF days even though they had an habit of kicking our players off the pitch. They're a huge club with a history to respect. I just think there's something wrong going on at the club and it'll be a long process to fix it. I'm surprised if Zidane wants a job like that after his success with Madrid. Even though I don't see United squad as trash. Many players just seem to underperform or get worse.

It's kind a the same thing I'm worried about Emery and Arsenal. There's talent in the squad but it's disjointed also. Despite a solid start Emery seems to struggle creating a distinct style of play. He never gets the starting 11 right for example. Of course he'll need 2-3 transfer windows to do it.

So apparently you are an United supporter Wyrdness. Would you like to see Zidane as your manager and why him? What about the likes of Jardim or Pochettino? Hell, why not even Simeone. Thinking he would be a good fit.

Mate don't try and tell me which squad I'm talking about because I even mention Van Gaal earlier, I concede the City part as I miscounted two of the wins as for Liverpool the past few seasons have been their best chance to swing things in their favour and it still didn't happen.

I'm not I'm a neutral so I don't look at things the same way dedicated supporters do as for Zidane his style of management may suit them.