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Will the Switch Dominate The Holiday Season?

Yes 69 50.74%
 
No, Sony will 42 30.88%
 
No, Microsoft will 5 3.68%
 
Not sure 20 14.71%
 
Total:136

BlackBeauty said:
COD is nowhere close to Pokémon.

We have facts here. Not VGCchartz facts. 

Pokémon outsold, outgrossed, out mobile COD both in hard sales and yearly revenue.

We have BlackBeauty Facts

"When was the last time a cod game touch 15 million? Lol"

But sorry, no Pokemon is not bigger than Call of Duty, at least in gaming sales and revenue.

CoD WW2 generated $1 Billion in Revenue in less than 2 months.

Your average 3ds Pokemon game (16m-ish @ $40) generates around $650m in Revenue lifetime.

Pokemon outgrossed CoD in Pokemon Go's launch year, in 2016 Pokemon Go made $950m in Revenue, though this quickly died down as for the first 6 months of 2017 it only made $250m in revenue.

2016 Pokemon Outgrossed, 2017 Call of Duty certainly took it, and every year before 2016 since CoD:4 probably.

 

"Pokemon grossed 3.3 billion $ in 2016" - That figure includes tv, movies, trading cards, T-shirts, Amiibo, etc etc.


Last edited by Barkley - on 01 June 2018

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Barkley said:

BlackBeauty said:
COD is nowhere close to Pokémon.

We have facts here. Not VGCchartz facts. 

Pokémon outsold, outgrossed, out mobile COD both in hard sales and yearly revenue.

We have BlackBeauty Facts

"When was the last time a cod game touch 15 million? Lol"

But sorry, no Pokemon is not bigger than Call of Duty, at least in gaming sales and revenue.

CoD WW2 generated $1 Billion in Revenue in less than 2 months.

Your average 3ds Pokemon game (16m-ish @ $40) generates around $650m in Revenue lifetime.

Pokemon outgrossed CoD in Pokemon Go's launch year, in 2016 Pokemon Go made $950m in Revenue, though this quickly died down as for the first 6 months of 2017 it only made $250m in revenue.

2016 Pokemon Outgrossed, 2017 Call of Duty certainly took it, and every year before 2016 since CoD:4 probably.

 

"Pokemon grossed 3.3 billion $ in 2016" - That figure includes tv, movies, trading cards, T-shirts, Amiibo, etc etc.


“At least in gaming sales” what’s next? “At least for shooting games”?

Love your exclusion. Pokémon has sold more than cod and is the highest grossing media of all time. That’s just the factz

Even just in gaming revenue Pokémon trounce on COD. I love how you’re only counting 3ds “core” games when Pokémon has a million different games on mobile plus Pokken which sold over 1 million on Switch lol. Even the recent release of red and blue sold millions on the 3ds as download only titles.

COD never took anything.



TruckOSaurus said:
Ljink96 said:

Yeah but it's not winning the holiday by itself... that never has happened guys. And I'm aware of how big Pokemon is but COD is even bigger than Pokemon. Fifa is almost as big if not bigger than Pokemon. (And yes, I know FIFA 19 is on Switch, but it's not selling 10M units like the PS4 version) You have to be level headed here. I didn't say it couldn't carry a holiday, but rather it alone can't win a holiday against Sony. Microsoft for sure though.

Does COD really boost hardware sales significantly every year? I know it sells incredibly well as does FIFA and Battlefield but since they're not exclusives and yearly titles, I never saw them as big hardware sellers (especially in the later years on a console). I could be wrong though, it's just an impression.

Okay, well you have a point. PS4 sales are slowing down. And most people who own one are recurring buyers of said franchises. But even without those, there's Red Dead 2, Spiderman, and other Sony exclusives that I think will push hardware sales. Believe me, I'm personally rooting for Nintendo as they're more prone to greater growth, but I think it could go either way.



BraLoD said:
Without a next gen pokemon it has no chances. So no.

Don't underestimate the Pokemon Go audience...or Genwunners.



BlackBeauty said:

“At least in gaming sales” what’s next? “At least for shooting games”?

Love your exclusion. Pokémon has sold more than cod and is the highest grossing media of all time. That’s just the factz

Well considering Movies, Anime, Trading Cards, TShirts, Figurines and Plush Toys have absolutley nothing to do with the discussion at hand, yes, exclude them.

Yes both are facts, neither mean CoD is "No where close to Pokemon". In gaming alone in recent years CoD is bigger.

Last edited by Barkley - on 01 June 2018

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Barkley said:
BlackBeauty said:

“At least in gaming sales” what’s next? “At least for shooting games”?

Love your exclusion. Pokémon has sold more than cod and is the highest grossing media of all time. That’s just the factz

Well considering Movies, Anime, Trading Cards, TShirts, Figurines and Plush Toys have absolutley nothing to do with the discussion at hand, yes, exclude them.

Yes both are facts, neither mean CoD is "No where close to Pokemon". In gaming alone CoD is bigger.

“In gaming alone COD is bigger” 

Then why has no cod games outsold red and blue yet? What are your facts and where are you getting them?

 

“in gaming when only 3ds games from 2013 counts with no spin off” or something else delusional in your mind?

This my final post in this discussion, COD will NEVER I MEAN WILL NEVER catch up to Pokémon.

Even recently COD has sold what 2 million more than recent Pokémon “core” games. It will never catch up in pure sales because even Pokémon spin off games sold 2 - 5 million yearly adding to its grand total. In revenue, it was never even remotely close.

 

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Last edited by BlackBeauty - on 01 June 2018

BlackBeauty said:
Barkley said:

Well considering Movies, Anime, Trading Cards, TShirts, Figurines and Plush Toys have absolutley nothing to do with the discussion at hand, yes, exclude them.

Yes both are facts, neither mean CoD is "No where close to Pokemon". In gaming alone CoD is bigger.

“In gaming alone COD is bigger” 

Then why has no cod games outsold red and blue yet? What are your facts and where are you getting them?

 

“in gaming when only 3ds games from 2013 counts with no spin off” or something else delusional in your mind?

 

So in your comment about "CoD is no where near pokemon" you were talking about the past? Or were you talking about which is bigger presently? Because only one of those makes sense in the context you said it. Nice Try.

"Even recently COD has sold what 2 million more than recent Pokémon “core” games."

"core" pokemon games aren't annual titles like Call of Duty, so that pushes it much more in CoD's favour. I would quote sales figures but I know you'll just say "Lel vgchartz numbers are bad."

Last edited by Barkley - on 01 June 2018

Which is bigger presently?

A spin off game with 800 million downloads and over 2.5 billion dollars in revenue.

Once again

END. We don’t use VGChartz here



BlackBeauty said:
Which is bigger presently?

A spin off game with 800 million downloads and over 2.5 billion dollars in revenue.

Once again

END. We don’t use VGChartz here

That's an interesting figure? Where did you get that? it had $950m in it's first 6 months, $250m revenue in the 6 months following that. It seems you took the $1.2b figure for it's first 12 months and then doubled it, how terrible.

Pokemon was bigger in 2016 due to Pokemon Go. But other then that Blip, Call of Duty is the bigger gaming franchise.

I understand why you'd want this discussion to end.

Edit: Found Pokemon Go Figures: $1.84B as of December 31st 2017.

So using the January-June figures from 2017 we could estimate revenue is around $2 Billion

Last edited by Barkley - on 01 June 2018

CoD will likely have little impact on hw sales during the next holiday season. What I personally think is more interesting is RDR2. If the RDR franchise will achieve similar growth to the GTA franchise, it will be huge. At that point, what remains to be seen is how those sales will be distrubuted between PS4 and Xbone and how they will impact hw sales. If I remember correctly, Sony has a marketing deal with R*, plus exclusive content.