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Forums - Sony Discussion - Detroit: Become Human Reviews: 79 Metacritic, 80 OpenCritic

DonFerrari said:

What does Metacritic color scheme have to do with it when very very very few games are below 50 and if you pull the average it's close to 70?

If the guy doesn't want to give a score then don't give. But if you are going to give, keep consistency on it.

When you are very far (half of the score) for a game then you certainly deserves scrutiny. And when you read their justifications they don't enforce a 40. Because as I said, they are basically just scoring on "how much did I like". That is no standard or coherence at all since the magazine have several different reviewers. And you can't really go and defend their totally bullocks 100 for broken games, very rare low score for good games but mixed in it a BS score for a good game can you?

I already gave you a links to the body of their work. At the end of the day they can give it the score they want to give it's suppose to be unbiased. 

http://opencritic.com/critic/577/colm-ahern

http://opencritic.com/critic/65/tyler-treese

Man If only they had a scoring policy??? To justify their 2 stars out of 5 & 4 out of 10 reviews.

2 Stars
These types of games tend to fail in one or more categories. Whether it’s the gameplay, design, or basic functionality, these games fail to live up to their potential. There's something still there that appealed to the person that wrote the review, but it's a very rough diamond indeed.


4/10 - Poor Enough
More a shoddy game redeemed by a few good points rather than a decent game knocked down by a couple of subpar elements. Might contain a few bright spots, but essentially fails more than it succeeds. For every Punch Drunk Love and Wedding Singer that Adam Sandler has, he’s got far more Cobblers, Jack and Jills and Pixels.





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yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:

What does Metacritic color scheme have to do with it when very very very few games are below 50 and if you pull the average it's close to 70?

If the guy doesn't want to give a score then don't give. But if you are going to give, keep consistency on it.

When you are very far (half of the score) for a game then you certainly deserves scrutiny. And when you read their justifications they don't enforce a 40. Because as I said, they are basically just scoring on "how much did I like". That is no standard or coherence at all since the magazine have several different reviewers. And you can't really go and defend their totally bullocks 100 for broken games, very rare low score for good games but mixed in it a BS score for a good game can you?

I already gave you a links to the body of their work. At the end of the day they can give it the score they want to give it's suppose to be unbiased. 

http://opencritic.com/critic/577/colm-ahern

http://opencritic.com/critic/65/tyler-treese

Man If only they had a scoring policy??? To justify their 2 stars out of 5 & 4 out of 10 reviews.

2 Stars
These types of games tend to fail in one or more categories. Whether it’s the gameplay, design, or basic functionality, these games fail to live up to their potential. There's something still there that appealed to the person that wrote the review, but it's a very rough diamond indeed.


4/10 - Poor Enough
More a shoddy game redeemed by a few good points rather than a decent game knocked down by a couple of subpar elements. Might contain a few bright spots, but essentially fails more than it succeeds. For every Punch Drunk Love and Wedding Singer that Adam Sandler has, he’s got far more Cobblers, Jack and Jills and Pixels.



And when you put both the 2 stars and 4/10, do Detroit really look like a games that deserve those classifications while let's say NMS deserves a 100?

Because it seems that they don't follow their policy.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

It fell down to 78 on Opencritic now. Even my custom Opencritic settings have it at 79. So it's not just troll reviews pulling the average down. I think I'll skip this one. At least until it goes on sale. :(



Cerebralbore101 said:
It fell down to 78 on Opencritic now. Even my custom Opencritic settings have it at 79. So it's not just troll reviews pulling the average down. I think I'll skip this one. At least until it goes on sale. :(

Not sure why 1 or 2 points below 80 would make you take this decision, but ok.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
It fell down to 78 on Opencritic now. Even my custom Opencritic settings have it at 79. So it's not just troll reviews pulling the average down. I think I'll skip this one. At least until it goes on sale. :(

Not sure why 1 or 2 points below 80 would make you take this decision, but ok.

I have too many games already. The backlog is real. I have to cut myself off at some point, or else I'll just wind up buying 50-60 games a year and only really getting through 24-30 of them. 



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Cerebralbore101 said:
DonFerrari said:

Not sure why 1 or 2 points below 80 would make you take this decision, but ok.

I have too many games already. The backlog is real. I have to cut myself off at some point, or else I'll just wind up buying 50-60 games a year and only really getting through 24-30 of them. 

But shouldn't the cut be about games you want or not instead of hitting a minimum threshold? I would understand someone that doesn't know the game looking at sub 80 and deciding to wait, but since you know and is interested I got curious why the 1 or 2 point drop would make this a hold. Look for comments like the ones from CGI to see if the game is one that would get your attention.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

I have too many games already. The backlog is real. I have to cut myself off at some point, or else I'll just wind up buying 50-60 games a year and only really getting through 24-30 of them. 

But shouldn't the cut be about games you want or not instead of hitting a minimum threshold? I would understand someone that doesn't know the game looking at sub 80 and deciding to wait, but since you know and is interested I got curious why the 1 or 2 point drop would make this a hold. Look for comments like the ones from CGI to see if the game is one that would get your attention.

Detroit is rated below Heavy Rain on metacritic. Yet, as far as I'm concerned, and that's coming from someone (like CGI) who rated Heavy Rain quite high, Detroit is a much better interactive narrative experience than Heavy Rain. So I really couldn't care less about how high (or low) its aggregate is. 

The style of Quantic Dream comes to maturity in Detroit as far as I'm concerned. 



Hynad said:
DonFerrari said:

But shouldn't the cut be about games you want or not instead of hitting a minimum threshold? I would understand someone that doesn't know the game looking at sub 80 and deciding to wait, but since you know and is interested I got curious why the 1 or 2 point drop would make this a hold. Look for comments like the ones from CGI to see if the game is one that would get your attention.

Detroit is rated below Heavy Rain on metacritic. Yet, as far as I'm concerned, and that's coming from someone (like CGI) who rated Heavy Rain quite high, Detroit is a much better interactive narrative experience than Heavy Rain. So I really couldn't care less about how high (or low) its aggregate is. 

The style of Quantic Dream comes to maturity in Detroit as far as I'm concerned. 

And I'm eager to try it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

I have too many games already. The backlog is real. I have to cut myself off at some point, or else I'll just wind up buying 50-60 games a year and only really getting through 24-30 of them. 

But shouldn't the cut be about games you want or not instead of hitting a minimum threshold? I would understand someone that doesn't know the game looking at sub 80 and deciding to wait, but since you know and is interested I got curious why the 1 or 2 point drop would make this a hold. Look for comments like the ones from CGI to see if the game is one that would get your attention.

Problem is I want all the games! Well, almost all of them. 80 is my cut-off point, but I'm still interested in games that get 74-79. Sometimes even games that get below that, I"ll want to play just because of the genre, or developer. 



Cerebralbore101 said:
DonFerrari said:

But shouldn't the cut be about games you want or not instead of hitting a minimum threshold? I would understand someone that doesn't know the game looking at sub 80 and deciding to wait, but since you know and is interested I got curious why the 1 or 2 point drop would make this a hold. Look for comments like the ones from CGI to see if the game is one that would get your attention.

Problem is I want all the games! Well, almost all of them. 80 is my cut-off point, but I'm still interested in games that get 74-79. Sometimes even games that get below that, I"ll want to play just because of the genre, or developer. 

I understand, I don't have the problem of wanting all, and certainly if I don't know much about the game I would avoid buying sub 80. I hope when you get it you enjoy.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."