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Chazore said:
DonFerrari said:

Yet PC gamers are all the time complaining about not getting ports of console peasantry right?

All the time?.

What about when the opposite happens with console gamers complaining of not getting those PC ports?.

 

It's not a one way street.

Still you were the one portraying PC gamers as the superior human beings that have so many good games that they don't have time to discuss.... talk about one way street.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:

Still you were the one portraying PC gamers as the superior human beings that have so many good games that they don't have time to discuss.... talk about one way street.

No, we're not going down this forced hostile route.


I was asking a question, nothing more, nothing less. 



Chazore said:
DonFerrari said:

Yet PC gamers are all the time complaining about not getting ports of console peasantry right?

All the time?.

What about when the opposite happens with console gamers complaining of not getting those PC ports?.

 

It's not a one way street.

What about it? Pales in comparison. What prestigious PC exclusives are there that make people start petitions and get the attention of the media?

Console -> PC

https://www.change.org/p/from-software-release-bloodborne-for-the-personalized-computing-platform

+40.000 supporters

https://www.change.org/p/koei-tecmo-bring-nioh-to-pc

+18.000

PC -> Console

https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-bring-star-citizen-to-xbox-one ...

15!

 

Petition for PUBG? Not a trace.



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Zoombael said:
Chazore said:

All the time?.

What about when the opposite happens with console gamers complaining of not getting those PC ports?.

 

It's not a one way street.

What about it? Pales in comparison. What prestigious PC exclusives are there that make people start petitions and get the attention of the media?

Console -> PC

https://www.change.org/p/from-software-release-bloodborne-for-the-personalized-computing-platform

+40.000 supporters

https://www.change.org/p/koei-tecmo-bring-nioh-to-pc

+18.000

PC -> Console

https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-bring-star-citizen-to-xbox-one ...

15!

 

Petition for PUBG? Not a trace.

Who said anything about them having to be prestigious?.

consoles =/= PC

 

You're only looking at a petition site, not the entire web, where many have been asking for PuB to hit the system, even over youtube. But I guess you're going to use a petition site to paint the canvas in your favor, as expected. 



Chazore said:
Zoombael said:

What about it? Pales in comparison. What prestigious PC exclusives are there that make people start petitions and get the attention of the media?

Console -> PC

https://www.change.org/p/from-software-release-bloodborne-for-the-personalized-computing-platform

+40.000 supporters

https://www.change.org/p/koei-tecmo-bring-nioh-to-pc

+18.000

PC -> Console

https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-bring-star-citizen-to-xbox-one ...

15!

 

Petition for PUBG? Not a trace.

Who said anything about them having to be prestigious?.

consoles =/= PC

 

You're only looking at a petition site, not the entire web, where many have been asking for PuB to hit the system, even over youtube. But I guess you're going to use a petition site to paint the canvas in your favor, as expected. 

Indeed. To scour the entire web would take some time.

But be my guest. I'll wait for your claim to be validated by tangible proof, not imaginary assumption.



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Zoombael said:

Indeed. To scour the entire web would take some time.

But be my guest. I'll wait for your claim to be validated by tangible proof, not imaginary assumption.

Time is what those make of it.

 

I've got time to wait. I'm not doing your job. 

Cherry picking won't help either. 



Chazore said:
DonFerrari said:

Still you were the one portraying PC gamers as the superior human beings that have so many good games that they don't have time to discuss.... talk about one way street.

No, we're not going down this forced hostile route.


I was asking a question, nothing more, nothing less. 

Then you should first read the previous convo, complain about Azzanation putting how PC gamers are superior and don't argue because they have too many great games to play, etc....

But here you are taking problem only at the answer that shows PC in bad light.

Chazore said:
Zoombael said:

Indeed. To scour the entire web would take some time.

But be my guest. I'll wait for your claim to be validated by tangible proof, not imaginary assumption.

Time is what those make of it.

 

I've got time to wait. I'm not doing your job. 

Cherry picking won't help either. 

That isn't how things work.

He gave you source for his claim, you said it is wrong/selective. Then you have to counter with data instead of asking him for more data.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

Then you should first read the previous convo, complain about Azzanation putting how PC gamers are superior and don't argue because they have too many great games to play, etc....

But here you are taking problem only at the answer that shows PC in bad light.

That isn't how things work.

He gave you source for his claim, you said it is wrong/selective. Then you have to counter with data instead of asking him for more data.

Except I'm not Azz, and I was asking you a question. 

The answer doesn't show anything in a bad light because you have not answered my question. You are forcefully making this into a hostile conversation, based on someone else. You are effectively lumping anyone on PC on this forum into this by your logic. 

Except that is how things work.

He decided to use a petition site, to paint an entire platform and it's users in one single broad stroke. He didn't bother to check around the internet, to notice that things aren't the same as the brush he used. It is not up to me to do what he should have done in the first place. 

 

it's like me claiming that people who buy a console, only game on a console, when the reality is further from that.

It's really, really asinine to assume that no one on console shows desire for a port from PC. Don't even try to quantify it, because it is already a reality. 

Last edited by Chazore - on 25 May 2018

Chazore said:
DonFerrari said:

Then you should first read the previous convo, complain about Azzanation putting how PC gamers are superior and don't argue because they have too many great games to play, etc....

But here you are taking problem only at the answer that shows PC in bad light.

That isn't how things work.

He gave you source for his claim, you said it is wrong/selective. Then you have to counter with data instead of asking him for more data.

Except I'm not Azz, and I was asking you a question. 

The answer doesn't show anything in a bad light because you have not answered my question. You are forcefully making this into a hostile conversation, based on someone else. You are effectively lumping anyone on PC on this forum into this by your logic. 

Except that is how things work.

He decided to use a petition site, to paint an entire platform and it's users in one single broad stroke. He didn't bother to check around the internet, to notice that things aren't the same as the brush he used. It is not up to me to do what he should have done in the first place. 

it's like me claiming that people who buy a console, only game on a console, when the reality is further from that.

It's really, really asenine to assume that no one on console shows desire for a port from PC. Don't even try to quantify it.

Nope, I was answering inside the subject of the convo. If you wanted to ask changing topic you should had been clear.

Both sides port beg, even if myself I don't since most of my playtime is for 1st party. But anyway the other person gave you some evidence.

And you are one of the people that are constantly in VGC complaining about console exclusivity and asking for total MP, aren't you?

Still you are trying him to prove his and your point. He showed one place with people begging for console ports to PC, and much lower on the opposite. You said it is wrong and that other places are different. You are the one that is supposed to prove your argument not demand him to fetch the data in your head.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

Nope, I was answering inside the subject of the convo. If you wanted to ask changing topic you should had been clear.

Both sides port beg, even if myself I don't since most of my playtime is for 1st party. But anyway the other person gave you some evidence.

And you are one of the people that are constantly in VGC complaining about console exclusivity and asking for total MP, aren't you?

Still you are trying him to prove his and your point. He showed one place with people begging for console ports to PC, and much lower on the opposite. You said it is wrong and that other places are different. You are the one that is supposed to prove your argument not demand him to fetch the data in your head.

I was asking you a question, not asking you to deviate away from it.

It has nothing to do with Azz in question at all.

Yes, I've already seen your response before, in regards to not wanting PC games ported over, but that doesn't magically mean that everyone on console wants the same as you do.

The other poster posted one site, one petition site of all sites, and painted one platform with a massive brush. You refusing to see that is just telling me that you don't want to acknowledge how asinine that really is. 

You are bringing up past conversations to disable anything I can possibly say in this thread now?. Because it looks like it.

I'm not proving his point at all. I'm calling him out for using one one piece of fractured data (because it doesn't represent an entire platform, like it or not) and painting PC with the widest brush imaginable, while refusing to look for any other data out there. I was not raised to do someone's job at researching information, and expecting me to do his work is just as asinine to think so.