| RolStoppable said: Nintendo is making the right business moves, going from exclusion to inclusion. That's how you get higher sales than a PlayStation platform. |
Who are Sony excluding?
| RolStoppable said: Nintendo is making the right business moves, going from exclusion to inclusion. That's how you get higher sales than a PlayStation platform. |
Who are Sony excluding?
KLXVER said:
Who are Sony excluding? |
I don't mean to be a pain in the ass but wait, wait wait...so you think Sony isn't excluding anyone? Which I agree...so why is it a problem for Nintendo to do the same? lol
Ljink96 said:
I don't mean to be a pain in the ass but wait, wait wait...so you think Sony isn't excluding anyone? Which I agree...so why is it a problem for Nintendo to do the same? lol |
Its a matter of priorities. Sony focus on the fans. They know that's their bread and butter. Nintendo doesn't focus on anyone. They want everybody, so every group suffer from it.
RolStoppable said:
Sounds like something that you want to believe rather than reality. |
Maybe. I'm just having a hard time embracing the post Wii Nintendo.
KLXVER said:
Its a matter of priorities. Sony focus on the fans. They know that's their bread and butter. Nintendo doesn't focus on anyone. They want everybody, so every group suffer from it. |
Did you see the software sales for Nintendo titles? I'd argue they focus on their "bread and butter" quite well. They made 1.5 billion in profit because of Switch, and its software, hard core software. And while the first half of 2018 has been lackluster, it ain't over until after E3. You really shouldn't be concerned. Like I said, I would be concerned if this was Wii Nintendo, or Wii U Nintendo, but so far this has been an almost entirely different Nintendo. We're going to continue to get the first party software Nintendo has boasted about.
The only diversion we've seen from 1st party hardcore titles is Labo, not much else. Sony focuses on VR as well, which is arguably a very niche market that isn't necessarily representative of the fan base of PS4.
Ljink96 said:
Did you see the software sales for Nintendo titles? I'd argue they focus on their "bread and butter" quite well. They made 1.5 billion in profit because of Switch, and its software, hard core software. And while the first half of 2018 has been lackluster, it ain't over until after E3. You really shouldn't be concerned. Like I said, I would be concerned if this was Wii Nintendo, or Wii U Nintendo, but so far this has been an almost entirely different Nintendo. We're going to continue to get the first party software Nintendo has boasted about. The only diversion we've seen from 1st party hardcore titles is Labo, not much else. Sony focuses on VR as well, which is arguably a very niche market that isn't necessarily representative of the fan base of PS4. |
That's why I think it would be great if Nintendo focused more on their core games. They do so well. Not much casual from Nintendo has done well since the Wii/DS era. Its just a bit frustrating that they cant at least do a few years of more core games and see how it goes. If it doesnt go well, then at least they will have many games gamers will still love 10, 20, 30 years from now. Instead of a bunch of games that's fun for a month or two.
I don't know. Guess I'm just a bit harder on Nintendo because I like them so much. There are months were I don't buy anything for my Sony or MS consoles as well...
It's nice to see Nintendo embracing the Wii again after they killed it off prematurely.
Wii has to be the most underutilized console in history. Nintendo started listening to "hardcore gamers" and third-party developers in 2009 and stopped making software for it. People believe Wii U was the product of the Wii, it wasn't. It was the product of Nintendo turning their back on the Wii, and abandoning its fans.
| p0isonparadise said: It's nice to see Nintendo embracing the Wii again after they killed it off prematurely. Wii has to be the most underutilized console in history. Nintendo started listening to "hardcore gamers" and third-party developers in 2009 and stopped making software for it. People believe Wii U was the product of the Wii, it wasn't. It was the product of Nintendo turning their back on the Wii, and abandoning its fans. |
Yeah, Wii U was like a modern Gamecube moreso than Wii.
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| Johnw1104 said: Man we as a community can really be condescending and elitist lol This is fine so long as they don't abandon "core gamers" or w/e. The Wii essentially did that from the start... |
The worry is that Nintendo only appears to have learned that lesson and will repeat their mistakes. For as well as 2017 went, Nintendo honestly seemed surprised with how well the public reacted to a few traditional AAAs from them.
I don't think they realize that continuing to crank out those large experiences will be their ticket to success, and not necessarily something like Labo. If their focus is on MP4 and Pokemon, things will continue to go well. If they stray into Nintendoland territory, maybe the tide slows.
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KLXVER said:
That's why I think it would be great if Nintendo focused more on their core games. They do so well. Not much casual from Nintendo has done well since the Wii/DS era. Its just a bit frustrating that they cant at least do a few years of more core games and see how it goes. If it doesnt go well, then at least they will have many games gamers will still love 10, 20, 30 years from now. Instead of a bunch of games that's fun for a month or two. I don't know. Guess I'm just a bit harder on Nintendo because I like them so much. There are months were I don't buy anything for my Sony or MS consoles as well... |
I think we'll get a ton of quality games when it's all said and done, I understand how you feel about Nintendo and I gave them no mercy during the Wii U era, as it was inexcusable the type of support we ended up getting and how many droughts there were. I don't feel that way this time around and I'm optimistic about their future. This is a system where they can combine their handheld and home console software developers under one device and I think by the end of this year into 2019, we'll begin to see a steadier stream of titles similar to how Nintendo handheld the entire year of 2017.
I agree, 2018 so far has been...light on engaging, new Nintendo software, but I think that's gonna change real soon here. I know you're passionate about gaming, but chill, I think Nintendo will be alright this time.