Dark_Feanor said: The PS5 might exists and might be launch this Hollyday season. However, there is zero chance of it´s supporting a Navi GPU and may be close to zero to use Zen CPU cores. First, there has never been a console with a Radeon GPU architecture that was the top tear of the year. And we even have to suppose those Navi cards are coming this year. |
You are conflating two separate issues.
Navi is an architecture not a specific GPU.
Dark_Feanor said: And Zen cores are far bigger than Jaguar, supposing Navi CU are also bigger than Polaris and we simply don´t have enough "size budget" to create the SoC. |
Evidence?
Dark_Feanor said: Third, even if the PS5 GPU is bigger, how the hell will it leverage bandwidth speed? GDDR5X? That would be a minuscule increase for an extra price. And the PS5 will need to have at least 12GB to reach full 4K most of the time. That is more $$$ over more $$$. |
GDDR6 is in mass production.
Dark_Feanor said: There is no reason Sony would bet on new architecture at this point of the generation. |
They are going to have to eventually.
PwerlvlAmy said: super fake news |
Indeed. Although I wouldn't be surprised if dev kits were floating about, it's far to early for a Playstation 5 or Xbox Two.
Dark_Feanor said: PS: Even though Jaguar has been a punching bag this generation, no one can deny it is a very proven and reliable mobile CPU. |
AMD has better, smaller, more efficient mobile CPU's though. In-fact, they even made a successor to Jaguar.
Dark_Feanor said: If a big APU is expensive, it is still far cheaper than discreet components. The simple fact that you have to wire and encapsulate two different types of chips would add extra costs, without considering how to place them on the motherboard and m race memory banks. |
Your assertion is accurate up to a point.
Otherwise AMD would have made threadripper as one giant chip... But rather, that wasn't economic.
It was far more economical to use 8-core complexes stitched together as AMD could get more working chips per wafer that way.
Dark_Feanor said:
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Cell, Wii and Xenos say otherwise.
KBG29 said: I am hoping the baseline PS5 is closer to 20TF. PS5 should be a generational leap over PS4, not just a PS4 revision. |
Flops isn't everything. Nor would it be achievable in the real world anyway.
Barkley said: You're never going to get a gpu that powerful in the ps5, the best pc GPUs currently available are under 10tf. If it launches this year you'd be lucky to get 8tf. Even in 2020 itll probably be 10-12tf. You can't expect the same proportional increase of 8-9x the flops, just as you can't with Ram. Ps5 isn't going to have 128gb of ram even if that would be consistent with previous generational leaps. |
Flops is a theoretical ceiling, often not achievable in the real world.
You can get that 8-9x increase in performance without an 8-9x increase in flops.
As for Ram, GDDR6 basically offers twice the performance/bandwidth over GDDR5. So 16GB of Ram should be the minimum I would expect.
JRPGfan said: 1,6ghz Jaguar -> 3ghz Zen core = ~4x speed up? in terms of cpu. |
No.
JRPGfan said: Semiaccurate have a pretty reliable track-record. All they have said is that they have varified that its a zen cpu (8c), and a navi based gpu.... w/ some stuff for VR buildt in. ^ most of that, is something people would assume to be happending anyway so yeah 1,000$ for that is insane. |
Having a zen based CPU is a certainty at this point.
Semi-Accurate don't always get everything right.
And nor should you take any outlet at face value because of a "track record". - You need to look at the evidence before forming an opinion.
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