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TheBird said:
Gun control wouldn't have stopped this, this girl was a crazy person, and YouTube pissed her off. Whether guns were here or not, people would still have been injured or killed by this girl. Because she is a crazy person who wants to kill people for demonetizing her cringry dance videos.
u-Haul trucks are cheap, bombs are easy to make, apparently people can hurt others with their words, so she could of easily mis gendered some of them on purpose and it would of been 100x more catastrophic than a bullet in the heart. I guess no matter what, people will still blame guns, innocent guns.

Hell, even if they banned gun sales like this, she could of bought one from across the border if she really wanted to use a gun if she knew she was going to end it all in suicide.

Don't blame guns, blame the media.

You are saying she would've killed and injured 4 people without a gun? What kind of game are you playing? That kind of thing really disgusts me.

If she had no gun, security would've detained her and end of story. What is wrong with people like you? Too bad they don't attack your workplace. You need the reality check.

Guns are NOT innocent! Guns are made to KILL people! That is their purpose! They are not for protecting, they are for KILLING!

A crazy person with no gun and a crazy person with a gun are VASTLY different threat levels because of that. 

 

Jesus, i'm trying really hard not to flame you because that is absolutely disgusting. Have some shame.

 

Warned ~ CGI

Last edited by CGI-Quality - on 04 April 2018

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Insidb said:
o_O.Q said:

yeah... they made a conclusion so fuck the statistics they based their conclusion on right? 

They made a biased, extremely subjective, unqualified, and unscientific conclusion.

Does that make you feel better about this garbage study that has already been debunked by several others?

How about this: gun violence has been decreasing in the US along with decreasing gun ownership rates...you don't even have to make a bunch of arbitrary exclusions or notations to show that.

 

Gun ownership rates: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/29/american-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/?utm_term=.4022c2f31131

Gun violence: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/21/gun-homicides-steady-after-decline-in-90s-suicide-rate-edges-up/

 

Ergo, fewer gun owners = less gun violence: you're welcome.

 how is a graph plotted with collected data subjective? do you know what subjective and objective mean?

 

"Does that make you feel better about this garbage study that has already been debunked by several others?"

...you haven't debunked it... all you did was call me a robot

 

"gun violence has been decreasing in the US along with decreasing gun ownership rates"

"Ergo, fewer gun owners = less gun violence"

my argument to reiterate was not about gun violence but about violent crime

i hardly think that a person who gets killed cares about whether its a knife or a gun that takes their life




o_O.Q said:
Nem said:

Nowhere will be safe in the US while people are allowed to own and carry guns.

But hey... old ass ammendment chart hundreads of years behind the times must be right. I mean, if the thousands year bible is right? (not)

I think the solution is obviously more guns for everyone. Let's have rodeos of blood where people shoot each other monthly! 

 

Yeah... pardon my sarcasm. It's just painful to watch. The US can be so backwards it hurts.

"Nowhere will be safe in the US while people are allowed to own and carry guns."

by extension nowhere will be safe where people are allowed to own knives

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/33-dead-130-injured-china-knife-wielding-spree-n41966

by extension nowhere will be safe where people are allowed to drive cars

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/nov/04/local/me-pileup4

 

...by extension nowhere will be safe... WELL DUH!

 

"But hey... old ass ammendment chart hundreads of years behind the times must be right. I mean, if the thousands year bible is right?"

and what proof do you have to show that the bible is not the divinely inspired word of god?

 

"The US can be so backwards it hurts."

the uk more so with its strict gun control laws

 

 

before you retort tell me why are the women of india seeking out firearms to protect themselves or in other words to keep themselves "SAFE"

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25727080

 

"Soon after the Delhi gang rape, large numbers of women in Indian cities began to look for ways to make themselves safer.

The Indian government introduced tougher new laws against rape, deployed more police on the streets and several cities introduced women's helplines.

But many frightened women had little faith in a largely corrupt and inefficient police force. Large numbers enrolled in self-defence classes and began stocking up on pepper spray cans. Some reports suggested there was a rise in the number of women seeking gun licences."

Honestly, i know who you are by now and i know you embody everything that is wrong with the views of a human being in my opinion, and the comparison between a knife, an instrument made to cut cooking ingredients and a gun, an instrument made to kill multiple people at the click of a finger is another example of that.

I'm not gonna try to talk sense into you. I already know you are beyond help.



Nem said:
o_O.Q said:

"Nowhere will be safe in the US while people are allowed to own and carry guns."

by extension nowhere will be safe where people are allowed to own knives

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/33-dead-130-injured-china-knife-wielding-spree-n41966

by extension nowhere will be safe where people are allowed to drive cars

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/nov/04/local/me-pileup4

 

...by extension nowhere will be safe... WELL DUH!

 

"But hey... old ass ammendment chart hundreads of years behind the times must be right. I mean, if the thousands year bible is right?"

and what proof do you have to show that the bible is not the divinely inspired word of god?

 

"The US can be so backwards it hurts."

the uk more so with its strict gun control laws

 

 

before you retort tell me why are the women of india seeking out firearms to protect themselves or in other words to keep themselves "SAFE"

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25727080

 

"Soon after the Delhi gang rape, large numbers of women in Indian cities began to look for ways to make themselves safer.

The Indian government introduced tougher new laws against rape, deployed more police on the streets and several cities introduced women's helplines.

But many frightened women had little faith in a largely corrupt and inefficient police force. Large numbers enrolled in self-defence classes and began stocking up on pepper spray cans. Some reports suggested there was a rise in the number of women seeking gun licences."

Honestly, i know who you are by now and i know you embody everything that is wrong with the views of a human being in my opinion, and the comparison between a knife, an instrument made to cut cooking ingredients and a gun, an instrument made to kill multiple people at the click of a finger is another example of that.

I'm not gonna try to talk sense into you. I already know you are beyond help.

"Honestly, i know who you are by now and i know you embody everything that is wrong with the views of a human being in my opinion"

i'm flattered 

 

"and the comparison between a knife, an instrument made to cut cooking ingredients and a gun, an instrument made to kill multiple people at the click of a finger is another example of that."

the intended purpose of knives is to cut

its the human being that chooses what to cut


"I'm not gonna try to talk sense into you."

lol don't make me laugh

 

but regardless tell me - would you take the guns away from the women in india and subject them to more gang rapes?



o_O.Q said:
Insidb said:

They made a biased, extremely subjective, unqualified, and unscientific conclusion.

Does that make you feel better about this garbage study that has already been debunked by several others?

How about this: gun violence has been decreasing in the US along with decreasing gun ownership rates...you don't even have to make a bunch of arbitrary exclusions or notations to show that.

 

Gun ownership rates: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/29/american-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/?utm_term=.4022c2f31131

Gun violence: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/21/gun-homicides-steady-after-decline-in-90s-suicide-rate-edges-up/

 

Ergo, fewer gun owners = less gun violence: you're welcome.

 how is a graph plotted with collected data subjective? do you know what subjective and objective mean?

 

"Does that make you feel better about this garbage study that has already been debunked by several others?"

...you haven't debunked it... all you did was call me a robot

 

"gun violence has been decreasing in the US along with decreasing gun ownership rates"

"Ergo, fewer gun owners = less gun violence"

my argument to reiterate was not about gun violence but about violent crime

i hardly think that a person who gets killed cares about whether its a knife or a gun that takes their life


See what I bolded...connect the dots yourself.

 

Violent crime has decreased in the US: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/30/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/

Gun homicide and ownership rates are much higher in the US than other first world nations: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts

 

Seeing as the gun ownership rates have correlated with decreases in violent crime, but the relatively high rate of gun ownership rates have correlated to much higher rates of gun violence, the data strong indicates that A) decreased gun ownership leads to decreased crime and B) the US has a gun problem.



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Nem said:
o_O.Q said:

"Nowhere will be safe in the US while people are allowed to own and carry guns."

by extension nowhere will be safe where people are allowed to own knives

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/33-dead-130-injured-china-knife-wielding-spree-n41966

by extension nowhere will be safe where people are allowed to drive cars

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/nov/04/local/me-pileup4

 

...by extension nowhere will be safe... WELL DUH!

 

"But hey... old ass ammendment chart hundreads of years behind the times must be right. I mean, if the thousands year bible is right?"

and what proof do you have to show that the bible is not the divinely inspired word of god?

 

"The US can be so backwards it hurts."

the uk more so with its strict gun control laws

 

 

before you retort tell me why are the women of india seeking out firearms to protect themselves or in other words to keep themselves "SAFE"

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25727080

 

"Soon after the Delhi gang rape, large numbers of women in Indian cities began to look for ways to make themselves safer.

The Indian government introduced tougher new laws against rape, deployed more police on the streets and several cities introduced women's helplines.

But many frightened women had little faith in a largely corrupt and inefficient police force. Large numbers enrolled in self-defence classes and began stocking up on pepper spray cans. Some reports suggested there was a rise in the number of women seeking gun licences."

Honestly, i know who you are by now and i know you embody everything that is wrong with the views of a human being in my opinion, and the comparison between a knife, an instrument made to cut cooking ingredients and a gun, an instrument made to kill multiple people at the click of a finger is another example of that.

I'm not gonna try to talk sense into you. I already know you are beyond help.

His celebratory comments about being disliked strongly indicate that he is a genuine troll and warrants moderation.

 

Warned ~ CGI

Last edited by CGI-Quality - on 04 April 2018

looks like one of these people that rested all of her future on youtube. while yes life isn't fair she looks like an insane person besides that.

 

the other day I was in some sort of a chat group. some high school kid (female)  was like " I hate school, when I finish high school I will be a youtuber" and

all the others were like "yeah go for your dreams you can do it !!!! yass queen #blessed" 

 

and I was like "well, you don't have a channel yet. and you want to bank your future on getting big at youtube. what are you going to youtube for?"

she : "video games and such"

am  like "its way past your opprtunity the ship has sailed. I would look onto something else"

 

and I was like banned out of that chat group for being negative. people are insane, youtube and this whole social media thing is essentially free money but life isn't fair and just because you want to do it. .doesn't mean you can.



Insidb said:
o_O.Q said:

 how is a graph plotted with collected data subjective? do you know what subjective and objective mean?

 

"Does that make you feel better about this garbage study that has already been debunked by several others?"

...you haven't debunked it... all you did was call me a robot

 

"gun violence has been decreasing in the US along with decreasing gun ownership rates"

"Ergo, fewer gun owners = less gun violence"

my argument to reiterate was not about gun violence but about violent crime

i hardly think that a person who gets killed cares about whether its a knife or a gun that takes their life


See what I bolded...connect the dots yourself.

 

Violent crime has decreased in the US: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/30/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/

Gun homicide and ownership rates are much higher in the US than other first world nations: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts

 

Seeing as the gun ownership rates have correlated with decreases in violent crime, but the relatively high rate of gun ownership rates have correlated to much higher rates of gun violence, the data strong indicates that A) decreased gun ownership leads to decreased crime and B) the US has a gun problem.

"Violent crime has decreased in the US: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/30/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/"

because of gun control laws? or because society is becoming more civil in general despite the media pushing the opposite idea?

 

"Seeing as the gun ownership rates have correlated with decreases in violent crime,..."

i just looked at your article in more detail

"According to the survey, which was conducted among 1,001 Americans in the aftermath of the Orlando nightclub shooting"

 

"1,001"

 

bonus : "But gun purchases, as measured by FBI firearm background checks, are at historic highs. "



Insidb said:
Nem said:

Honestly, i know who you are by now and i know you embody everything that is wrong with the views of a human being in my opinion, and the comparison between a knife, an instrument made to cut cooking ingredients and a gun, an instrument made to kill multiple people at the click of a finger is another example of that.

I'm not gonna try to talk sense into you. I already know you are beyond help.

His celebratory comments about being disliked strongly indicate that he is a genuine troll and warrants moderation.

 you started our conversation by calling me a robot without even trying to address the statistics i posted

after 3 posts you begrudging decided to try to tackle my arguments after insulting me constantly

and finally you are now calling me a troll because i refuse to become emotional over another user insulting me

 

and i'm the troll lol... that's rich dude



o_O.Q said:
Insidb said:

See what I bolded...connect the dots yourself.

 

Violent crime has decreased in the US: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/30/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/

Gun homicide and ownership rates are much higher in the US than other first world nations: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts

 

Seeing as the gun ownership rates have correlated with decreases in violent crime, but the relatively high rate of gun ownership rates have correlated to much higher rates of gun violence, the data strong indicates that A) decreased gun ownership leads to decreased crime and B) the US has a gun problem.

"Violent crime has decreased in the US: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/30/5-facts-about-crime-in-the-u-s/"

because of gun control laws? or because society is becoming more civil in general despite the media pushing the opposite idea?

 

"Seeing as the gun ownership rates have correlated with decreases in violent crime,..."

i just looked at your article in more detail

"According to the survey, which was conducted among 1,001 Americans in the aftermath of the Orlando nightclub shooting"

 

"1,001"

 

bonus : "But gun purchases, as measured by FBI firearm background checks, are at historic highs. "

SAD:

 

1: "One is an annual report by the FBI of serious crimes reported to police in approximately 18,000 jurisdictions around the country. The other is an annual survey of more than 90,000 households conducted by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, which asks Americans ages 12 and older whether they were victims of crime, regardless of whether they reported those crimes to the police."

2: "But the downward trend in gun ownership remains consistent across the national polls. According to Gallup, gun ownership has fallen by about 10 percentage points since its peak in 1993. The General Social Survey shows a 20-point drop since the mid-1970s."

 3: And, RIGHT AFTER your FBI excerpt: "But the declining rates of gun ownership across three major national surveys suggest a different explanation: that most of the rise in gun purchases is driven by existing gun owners stocking up, rather than by people buying their first gun. A Washington Post analysis last year found that the average American gun owner now owns approximately eight firearms, double the number in the 1990s."

4: More evidence of concentrated fun ownership: https://qz.com/1095899/gun-ownership-in-america-in-three-charts/

5: More surveys that show decreasing gun ownership in the US: http://www.researchscape.com/library/public-opinion/gun-ownership


You can try to cherry-pick, but everyone else can just read the articles and see the desperate attempts at deflection.