Looking through matters from a historic perspective is important (and no, they did not believe in a literal god except maybe Charles Darwin), and regarding Neil Degrasse Tyson... yeah, you are way, way of on that one =).

Mission successful. They derailed the topic into something else. Losing sides do that in every conversation.

Of course but I mentioned a few examples where Ben Shapiro is anything but rational and rather highly emotional.

which magical creatures are you referring to?

And what is that?

The thread is going off topic. Keep the discussion about David Hogg and Laura Ingraham, please.

This is the same guy who complains about media bias but then gets commissioned by Fox News. Wow, so intelligent. 

so... your focus is on the platform that he distributes his message on over his actual message?... well ok then

:thinking:

If he makes videos about how bad bias is, his message is that bias in media is bad, and he then chooses to go on a completely biased platform and spread other messages ... coincidentally not bringing up their bias. How is that not thinking about his actual message? I'll wait for your mental gymnastics on that one. 

However, the credibility of one's argument is independent from the reputation of the platform where the argument came from. To discredit someone's point because it comes from a platform that you consider to be biased or is objectively biased is ad hominem. You're not attacking the argument at that point; you're just attacking the person making the argument. This also applies to the notion that because a person has made biased statements in the past that this statement that he just made is also biased. You can definitely argue that because of Ben's history, when he makes an argument, it is likely that it is very biased. However, it does not guarantee that the argument is biased because there's a chance that he makes a good point. That is why we should always judge arguments in a case-by-case basis, not on a reputation basis.

If you want to continue this discussion, I'm happy to do it on PM because I already made myself clear that the thread is going off topic and the topic of the discussion should stick to David Hogg and Laura Ingraham.