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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - The downside of Cross-play with PC : Sea Of Thieves already has hacks

 

Should Console users have a cross play on / off option?

Yes 23 79.31%
 
No 1 3.45%
 
What? crossplay rules, ju... 5 17.24%
 
Total:29

I enjoy the Cross play between platforms. Best idea this gen followed by Backwards Compatible.

What do you think JRPGfan? What's your experience with Sea of Thieves? Do the hacks bother you? Does it affect your game sessions? I didn't know you had the game.



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Azzanation said:
I enjoy the Cross play between platforms. Best idea this gen followed by Backwards Compatible.

What do you think JRPGfan? What's your experience with Sea of Thieves? Do the hacks bother you? Does it affect your game sessions? I didn't know you had the game.

I dont, and in general dont play many shooters either.
So me running into a PC player cheating in a competitive game... chance of that happending is much smaller than most players here.

Like I said, mostly single player games.... so cross play does nothing for me.
I wish sony did have Backwards Compatiblity though.

Last game I played where hacking really bothered me (and it was noticeable) was Aion Online (a pvp focused mmorpg).
Occasionally you would run into players that where cheating, its not fun in a pvp centric game.
Even in games like League of Legend, I know theres some that cheat, but I dont really recall running into people like that.



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
It sounds like PC gamers have found a way to get the most out of their hard earned money.


Yup.

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If it's anything like Forza Horizon 3 crossplay, it can be easily turned off in the settings menu. Could be wrong since i'm yet to play SoT.



Crossplay is bad because Microsoft does it. That's not surprising, because anything Microsoft does is bad because Microsoft does it.



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John2290 said:
I don't think cross play should be a thing at all, I'm buying a system for the closed ecosystem and security and the community that brings. If I wanted to play with Live or steam players I'd buy an Xbox or hop on steam. Thankfully Sony understand this.

You sound like a progressive left. You are against freedom of play.



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John2290 said:
Awe, yes. And I certainly don't want to have to compete with K&M players even if they manage to eradicate all hacking.

A racially motivated post. You clearly have something against the PC gaming master race.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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Rocket League. Released 2016. Had crossplay since launch. Had an option to turn off crossplay since launch. Developed by 12 people. Still played by millions of people 2.5 years after launch. No hacks.

Damn PC people destroying games!



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JRPGfan said:

https://www.windowscentral.com/sea-thieves-already-has-hackers-offering-compelling-case-against-cross-play

"I won't link to nor advertise this particular hack (thanks to those who tipped), but this program allows a cheating player to exploit Sea of Thieves' UWP client to auto-aim for player's heads, see chests, and other objects through walls, and perform other game-breaking feats of Godmodehood.

Naturally, all hacking players will eventually get banned from Xbox Live, losing all of their licenses and potentially access to their Microsoft Account in the process. But that isn't much comfort to those who have had their fun spoiled, particularly when one of the selling points of console play, at least for me, is a pure, hacker-free experience."


"As hard as Microsoft seems to want to push for cross-play between Xbox One and PlayStation, the idea of cross-play between Xbox and PC is mired in pretty compelling counter arguments. PC players can turn and aim faster using a mouse, PC players also don't have to pay for Xbox Live, and thus, console players are effectively subsidising the service for PC players who want to jump in to Xbox Live. If none of these arguments are compelling enough, the biggest one of all, for me, is security. Opening up Xbox to forced, compulsory cross-play potentially subjects Xbox gamers, used to a tailored, polished experience, to the flood gates of hackers the likes of which exploit PC titles with impunity."

 

"I already know that Microsoft is constantly working to eliminate hackers from its services and systems, and even if they're better than most developers and publishers at doing so. PUBG also recently updated its anti cheat systems. However, that doesn't mean that these games will be completely immune to exploitation.

By no means am I suggesting Sea of Thieves' has a pervasive hacker problem... yet, but the potential is definitely there. At least in PUBG, the PC and console versions are separated, and in Gears of War 4, competitive cross-play is optional. In a world where security can't be guaranteed, forcing cross-play on Xbox gamers just seems like a big ask.

Co-operative PC / Xbox cross-play is great. Competitive cross-play is too, but due to some people's inability to play fair, compulsory competitive cross-play isn't."

 

Bullshit!

if you play coop its a very nice option and nobody plays xbox vs.pc in a shooter or something



Cross play should never be the default, it should always be an option which you opt in to.

I find it hilarious that people are now acting like this is a MS and Nintendo exclusive thing. Sony have had cross play since the PS2. There are dozens of games that currently allow PS4 and PC Cross Play.

Regaurdless of which console I use I will never turn on Cross Play, and if they don't allow it to be disabled I will not be playing. I have a PlayStation 4 Pro for playing on PSN, I have a XBO X for playing on XBL, and I have a Switch for playing in Nintendos ecosystem.



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