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Forums - Sales - NPD, PS4 2015 vs NSW 2018 (December added)

 

Who wins?

PS4 66 40.24%
 
NSW 84 51.22%
 
Tie 14 8.54%
 
Total:164
zorg1000 said:
I updated the chart to show that PS4 recieved a $50 price cut in October along with a further $50 discount on Black Friday and 2 weeks of December.

Can you also put the price at the time? Even with the price cuts, it was still more expensive than the Switch is right now. 



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quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

It could easily be argued the opposite.

Jan+Feb PS4 had much bigger titles with Dying Light, Evolve, The Order & Xenoverse vs Switch just having Bayonetta 2 yet they are doing pretty much the same.

i was very impressed with switch JAN, but February, selling 60k less, to me looks like the downtrend will start when comparing it to ps4 sales. you also have to remember for a nintendo console, having zelda, 3d mario, and mario kart in the same year and at this quality  is unprecedented.

 

Oh so now you are saying compared to ps4 sales but before it was just in general. Why don't you give it up and just see what happens the rest of the year.



Switch from April will start having quite stronger lineup than it did had until March, so in next months Switch will probably have stronger sales than it did had in January-February:

-Nintendo Labo - April 20
-South Park: The Fractured but Whole - April 24
-Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm - April 26
-Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - May 3
-Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition - May 18
-Little Nightmares - May 18
-Mega Man Legacy Collection 1/2 - May 22
-Dark Souls Remastered - May 25
-Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection - May 29
-Sushi Striker - June 8
-Mario Tennis Aces - June 22
-Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana - June 26
-Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy - July 10
-Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker - July 13
-Octopath Traveler - July 13

Of Course plus tons of Indies games evry month, and we could easily get some other announcement for June-July period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games



Miyamotoo said:

Switch from April will start having quite stronger lineup than it did had until March, so in next months Switch will probably have stronger sales than it did had in January-February:

-Nintendo Labo - April 20
-South Park: The Fractured but Whole - April 24
-Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm - April 26
-Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - May 3
-Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition - May 18
-Little Nightmares - May 18
-Mega Man Legacy Collection 1/2 - May 22
-Dark Souls Remastered - May 25
-Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection - May 29
-Sushi Striker - June 8
-Mario Tennis Aces - June 22
-Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana - June 26
-Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy - July 10
-Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker - July 13
-Octopath Traveler - July 13

Of Course plus tons of Indies games evry month, and we could easily get some other announcement for June-July period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games

Think the indies will still push hardware sales? Also, what do you think of the PS4’s line-up for that same period?



Lawlight said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

You keep saying Wii was something else, but you have failed to validate why the Switch can not also be "something else" ... 

Because nothing points to it being something else. I know some people think that the Switch will sell 25M - 30M this year but there’s no reason to think that it will be another Wii.

You always use "some people" as an arguement foundation. Switch doesnt need to sell at wii peak years to hit 100mil+

Lawlight said:
zorg1000 said:
I updated the chart to show that PS4 recieved a $50 price cut in October along with a further $50 discount on Black Friday and 2 weeks of December.

Can you also put the price at the time? Even with the price cuts, it was still more expensive than the Switch is right now. 

This is annoying, you been mentioning this ever since switch has been a competitive force agaisnt x1/ps4.

Ironic pary about this is the fact that when nsw was revealed to be $299 msrp we didnt hear any arguements that it had a huge advantage over ps4 price. In fact many people including nintendo fans thought the system was dead on arrival.

 

You keep playing your narrative card its becoming desperate at this point. "But the price the price" in almost half of your poat in the past week or so.

 

I can spin too if you like? Ps4 had an advantage over nsw last holiday. Ps4 was over 50% off of its launch price and nsw at a disavantage 0% off of its launch price. See that example fits my narrative! Understand?



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Lawlight said:
Miyamotoo said:

Switch from April will start having quite stronger lineup than it did had until March, so in next months Switch will probably have stronger sales than it did had in January-February:

-Nintendo Labo - April 20
-South Park: The Fractured but Whole - April 24
-Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm - April 26
-Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - May 3
-Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition - May 18
-Little Nightmares - May 18
-Mega Man Legacy Collection 1/2 - May 22
-Dark Souls Remastered - May 25
-Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection - May 29
-Sushi Striker - June 8
-Mario Tennis Aces - June 22
-Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana - June 26
-Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy - July 10
-Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker - July 13
-Octopath Traveler - July 13

Of Course plus tons of Indies games evry month, and we could easily get some other announcement for June-July period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games

Think the indies will still push hardware sales? Also, what do you think of the PS4’s line-up for that same period?

No, but more releases is good in any way for keeping momentum. PS4 lineup is stronger beacuse much stronger 3rd party support, but that automatically dont means it will sell better, for instance in January PS4 had MHW and Dragon Ball Z while Switch nothing and Switch sold better. Thats why I comparing Switch lineup with Switch lineup and thats why Switch most likly will sell beetter from April than it did sell in January-February.



zorg1000 said:

I just thought it would be fun to compare the 2nd year of these two outstanding consoles.

 

Month Sony Playstation 4 Nintendo Switch Accumulative  Difference
January* 190k, Dying Light 270k +80k Switch
February 340k, Evolve, The Order, Xenoverse 280k, Bayonetta 2 +20k Switch
March 330k, Battlefield, Bloodborne, MLB, FF Type-0    
April 175k, Mortal Kombat X    
May 155k, Witcher 3    
June 370k, Arkham Knight, Elder Scrolls Online    
July 220k, PGA 2016    
August 210k, Madden, Until Dawn    
September 355k, Metal Gear Solid, NBA, FIFA, Mad Max, Taken King    
October 275k, Assassin's Creed, WWE, Uncharted Collection, $50 price cut    
November 1540k, Call of Duty, Fallout, Battlefront, Need For Speed, $50 discount Black Friday    
December 1580k, Rainbow Six, $50 discount for 2 weeks    
Total 5740k    

January*-4 week vs 5 week

Major releases are new games that charted in their debut month.

This will be pretty interesting. Looking back at this comparison, while the PS4 had really good games in 2015, it didn't really start peaking until 2016-17. And the games I selected in bold were considered disappointing either from a sales perspective and/or a critical perspective.

I think the strong third party support and the price cuts really did the PS4 well in 2015. We will see how things will fare for the Switch, considering we don't even know what will come out during the Fall and Holiday seasons besides Smash Bros., which is an exciting and nerve-wracking prospect. Plus, would Nintendo consider a price cut despite strong sales?



tbone51 said:
Lawlight said:

Because nothing points to it being something else. I know some people think that the Switch will sell 25M - 30M this year but there’s no reason to think that it will be another Wii.

You always use "some people" as an arguement foundation. Switch doesnt need to sell at wii peak years to hit 100mil+

Lawlight said:

Can you also put the price at the time? Even with the price cuts, it was still more expensive than the Switch is right now. 

This is annoying, you been mentioning this ever since switch has been a competitive force agaisnt x1/ps4.

Ironic pary about this is the fact that when nsw was revealed to be $299 msrp we didnt hear any arguements that it had a huge advantage over ps4 price. In fact many people including nintendo fans thought the system was dead on arrival.

 

You keep playing your narrative card its becoming desperate at this point. "But the price the price" in almost half of your poat in the past week or so.

 

I can spin too if you like? Ps4 had an advantage over nsw last holiday. Ps4 was over 50% off of its launch price and nsw at a disavantage 0% off of its launch price. See that example fits my narrative! Understand?

Please, don’t deny that price makes a difference.

And yes, the PS4 was 50% of its launch price but it was also over 4 years old.



Kai_Mao said:
zorg1000 said:

I just thought it would be fun to compare the 2nd year of these two outstanding consoles.

 

Month Sony Playstation 4 Nintendo Switch Accumulative  Difference
January* 190k, Dying Light 270k +80k Switch
February 340k, Evolve, The Order, Xenoverse 280k, Bayonetta 2 +20k Switch
March 330k, Battlefield, Bloodborne, MLB, FF Type-0    
April 175k, Mortal Kombat X    
May 155k, Witcher 3    
June 370k, Arkham Knight, Elder Scrolls Online    
July 220k, PGA 2016    
August 210k, Madden, Until Dawn    
September 355k, Metal Gear Solid, NBA, FIFA, Mad Max, Taken King    
October 275k, Assassin's Creed, WWE, Uncharted Collection, $50 price cut    
November 1540k, Call of Duty, Fallout, Battlefront, Need For Speed, $50 discount Black Friday    
December 1580k, Rainbow Six, $50 discount for 2 weeks    
Total 5740k    

January*-4 week vs 5 week

Major releases are new games that charted in their debut month.

This will be pretty interesting. Looking back at this comparison, while the PS4 had really good games in 2015, it didn't really start peaking until 2016-17. And the games I selected in bold were considered disappointing either from a sales perspective and/or a critical perspective.

I think the strong third party support and the price cuts really did the PS4 well in 2015. We will see how things will fare for the Switch, considering we don't even know what will come out during the Fall and Holiday seasons besides Smash Bros., which is an exciting and nerve-wracking prospect. Plus, would Nintendo consider a price cut despite strong sales?

Price cut is always posible (in Holiday 2018. Switch will be 1.5 years old), but we will first start seeing bundles with one game packed for current price point, Switch is still selling whitout any game for $300. So I am not sure about price cut for Holiday 2018. but I expect for instance MK8D Switch Bundle or Splatoon 2 bundle for $300 price point.



Lawlight said:
tbone51 said:

You always use "some people" as an arguement foundation. Switch doesnt need to sell at wii peak years to hit 100mil+

This is annoying, you been mentioning this ever since switch has been a competitive force agaisnt x1/ps4.

Ironic pary about this is the fact that when nsw was revealed to be $299 msrp we didnt hear any arguements that it had a huge advantage over ps4 price. In fact many people including nintendo fans thought the system was dead on arrival.

 

You keep playing your narrative card its becoming desperate at this point. "But the price the price" in almost half of your poat in the past week or so.

 

I can spin too if you like? Ps4 had an advantage over nsw last holiday. Ps4 was over 50% off of its launch price and nsw at a disavantage 0% off of its launch price. See that example fits my narrative! Understand?

Please, don’t deny that price makes a difference.

And yes, the PS4 was 50% of its launch price but it was also over 4 years old.

Why did ps4 outsell the vita in Japan? Price difference am i right? Why did ps2 outsell gamecube? 

 

Price has factors in it duh, but its not everything. Your only now using the price factor because it suits your narrative. Going by your post history you only use facts that again fit your narrative. 

 

Be happy that both consoles (and x1 in the usuk) are doing well. The way your making this out to be means we should never begin to put the two in comparison because switch will always lose