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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 Won February NPD (PS4: 363K, XBO: 310K, NSW: 279K)

peachbuggy said:
quickrick said:

He has NPD info, he has leaked good numbers before, or he would have been banned right away at resetera.

If he has NPD info and releases it before Mat then surely he would be sacked, as he is disclosing something before disclosure date. So, posters have been banned for posting false facts on there before? Well they can't ban him yet if he is wrong, as they can only do so once the "Actual" NPD data is announced. So, if he gets banned tomorrow, we will know why.

they announce it tomorrow, but insiders get the info a week earlier. matt has nothing to with the leaker. 



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So, have these numbers been confirmed already, or are they still based off the leak?

Even if these results end up being the case, I don't think I'd be that surprised. The PS4 has had some strong games as of late, while Nintendo is in a bit of a slow down period. These results would make more sense to me. I figure Nintendo should be picking up once they release more titles later in the year.



 

              

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RolStoppable said:
quickrick said:

if you look at it that way its gaining momentum, but consoles sales usually see a 70/80% increase in Feb compared to jan.  

Switch didn't follow the typical October to November and November to December increases either.

like i said it looks like its losing momentum to me, not saying its a fact, but if next month it does 240-260k it would differently be a weak start to the year in the US, compared to most people expectations.



quickrick said:
nemo37 said:

I think the link you are using is flawed. I used a similar link, because it was the only direct way to access the entire Best Buy database for games, but the link sorts not only based on best selling but also based on best ranking.

My link (posted below) does not take rankings into consideration (since it is not relevant to sales) and only sorts what is tagged as a "console" based on sales.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?cp=1&searchType=search&st=console&_dyncharset=UTF-8&id=pcat17071&type=page&sc=Global&nrp=&sp=-bestsellingsort%20skuidsaas&qp=&list=n&af=true&iht=y&usc=All%20Categories&ks=960&keys=keys

I don't know man, my link seems more realistic it was only February where it started beating switch, and after the discounted xbox it started beating switch as well, and it came out be true for NPD. 

It is not really a matter of opinion in this case, as the link you provided includes a variable that is irrelevant (top rating). The link I have only looks at whether the item has the terms "console" in its title or description and then sorts it by best selling. The data for your link and my link are the same (they are both from Best Buy US) it is just that yours not only sorts by sales but also by ratings, which means that the rank you are getting is based on both unit sales and customer rating (obviously the customer ratings is not what we are interested in, so including it introduces error); mine only does it based on unit sales on products that have console in the name or description (considering we are only looking at console sales, the way my link has sorted the data gets closer to what we are looking for than your link which includes customer ratings).

Also, I should note that the link I provided had PS4 above Switch during black Friday week in November (I don't recall Xbox One), then Switch above PS4 and Xbox One in December, PS4 above Switch starting in late-January and the Xbox One started to beat the Switch after the discount (and on the first day of the discount one the Xbox One SKUs was above the PS4 but it went back down again), after the discounts ended Switch went back above Xbox One and starting on the second week of March it went above PS4. So this sorting seems to be receptive to changes in sales patterns and only changes in sales patterns (as opposed to changes in customer rating patterns).



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Kyuu said:
Excellent for PS4 and X1. Not looking particularly good for Switch. Weren't people not long ago saying it will sell as many units as Nintendo can produce and that the only thing stopping it from destroying PS4 were supply issues? Well, that's what you get when you ignore surplus..

Yeah, sure, it didn't have any big releases in February (ignoring Bayonetta...which suddenly doesn't exist again!!) but.. that's like Nintendo's trademark. Portability/hybrid, lower price tag (launch aligned) and Nintendo's software alone may not be enough to surpass PS4 even in the US. This takes into account the specs disparity between Switch and competitors (will get bigger when PS5 hits), and the relatively low interest of the playerbase in third party games.

Amazon and online stores in general are heavily Switch biased, both in hardware and software it seems (I figured that would be the case since when Adobe Digital Insights had the Switch dominating the Black Friday period). Amazon had Bayonetta and several Switch games destroying Monster Hunter World, a far cry from the actual numbers.

Another doomsday Switch post, they're a dime a dozen these days...



quickrick said:
peachbuggy said:

If he has NPD info and releases it before Mat then surely he would be sacked, as he is disclosing something before disclosure date. So, posters have been banned for posting false facts on there before? Well they can't ban him yet if he is wrong, as they can only do so once the "Actual" NPD data is announced. So, if he gets banned tomorrow, we will know why.

they announce it tomorrow, but insiders get the info a week earlier. matt has nothing to with the leaker. 

Given that Mat won't be swayed on the validity of the numbers either way suggests he certainly doesn't support something like leaks. Am surprised he hasn't complained in some way.



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peachbuggy said:
quickrick said:

The leak is correct, just accept it. the guy is 100% verified, or you can wait till tomorrow.  if it wasn't correct the numbers would have been confirmed fake a long time ago, and thread would be closed.

Well idk what you mean by verified. His sig looks like a normal poster. If he is verified, i would think Mat would be pretty mad at him. I'm actually looking forward to reading it tomorrow, just to see what Matt meant. His statement looked like it could cause a mini riot on there and also he refused to be drawn either way. Pretty interesting. Of course it could be about another thing entirely and the numbers could be accurate but it definitely is something important.

Hes leaked NPD numbers like 2-3 times, and no one has banned him for being a fake or giveing wrong numbers.

Im curious what matt meant when he said... I forgot what it was word for word, but like "It ll be awkard when nintendo gives its PR statement?" or something?



nemo37 said:
quickrick said:

I don't know man, my link seems more realistic it was only February where it started beating switch, and after the discounted xbox it started beating switch as well, and it came out be true for NPD. 

It is not really a matter of opinion in this case, as the link you provided includes a variable that is irrelevant (top rating). The link I have only looks at whether the item has the terms "console" in its title or description and then sorts it by best selling. The data for your link and my link are the same (they are both from Best Buy US) it is just that yours not only sorts by sales but also by ratings, which means that the rank you are getting is based on both unit sales and customer rating (obviously the customer ratings is not what we are interested in, so including it introduces error); mine only does it based on unit sales on products that have console in the name or description (considering we are only looking at console sales, the way my link has sorted the data gets closer to what we are looking for than your link which includes customer ratings).

Also, I should note that the link I provided had PS4 above Switch during black Friday week in November (I don't recall Xbox One), then Switch above PS4 and Xbox One in December, PS4 above Switch starting in late-January and the Xbox One started to beat the Switch after the discount (and on the first day of the discount one the Xbox One SKUs was above the PS4 but it went back down again), after the discounts ended Switch went back above Xbox One and starting on the second week of March it went above PS4. So this sorting seems to be receptive to changes in sales patterns and only changes in sales patterns (as opposed to changes in customer rating patterns).

can you post the same link with video games instead of console?



JRPGfan said:
peachbuggy said:

Well idk what you mean by verified. His sig looks like a normal poster. If he is verified, i would think Mat would be pretty mad at him. I'm actually looking forward to reading it tomorrow, just to see what Matt meant. His statement looked like it could cause a mini riot on there and also he refused to be drawn either way. Pretty interesting. Of course it could be about another thing entirely and the numbers could be accurate but it definitely is something important.

Hes leaked NPD numbers like 2-3 times, and no one has banned him for being a fake or giveing wrong numbers.

Im curious what matt meant when he said... I forgot what it was word for word, but like "It ll be awkard when nintendo gives its PR statement?" or something?

Yep that was pretty much word for word what he said. Well, except it wasn't him that mentioned Nintendo PR. I found it pretty ominous but then he never gives anything away early!



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