LOL Ya when I saw that scene I couldn't help but laugh cause ultimately it was all like "you got a mom named martha too? .....ok we're best friends now!" and just literally stops trying to kill him lol

It's funny that some more extremist DC fans like to pretend that Disney/Marvel are enacting some sort of conspiracy to make critics and audiences love their movies while also hating on DC movies. 

They are, though. Disney IS enacting a conspiracy to make people think their movies are good! 

It's called "Making good movies." 

Just so happens to be that DC/Warner isn't doing the same. 

And when a Thor movie makes more than a Justice League movie, you know you'redoing pretty bad. when Batman v Superman is bested by a captain american/Iron Man movie, you know you're doing pretty bad. I mean, logically, Batman v Superman and Justice League SHOULD have been the two highest grossing superhero movies of all time, given the immense popularity of the two main heroes in it being the two most important and successful superheroes of all time. 

But yeah, I want DC to do well (I loved Wonder Woman), but Marvel is knocking it out of the park. Part of me really does think that Captain Marvel is going to do 1 billion, too. here are my predictions: 

Black Panther - 1.35 billion
Infinity War - 2.05 billion
Ant Man 2 - 0.78 billion
Captain Marvel - 1.02 billion
Infinity War 2 - 2.13 billion

So yeah, I might be overestimating on Captain Marvel, but after black Panther did what it did, the sky is the limit for any and all Marvel movies. 

look at us, counting money we don't have lol. tho sure the disney execs are happy so are shareholders

Yep.  They thought it was going to be the largest, too.  Which is why they sunk so much into that film.  Even got Joss Whedon to Avengers it up slightly.  In the end, it was a flop, as it failed to break even on its production and marketing budget.

WB/DC's problem is twofold.  For one, they have little respect for the characters.  They just don't come across as they do in the comics/cartoons.  Superman's film was dark and foreboding (an atmosphere better suited for Batman), with his dad, who's supposed to be his moral compass, actually telling him it might have been ok to let kids die to keep his secret.  Batman just goes around murdering low level thugs.  They seem to have gotten Wonder Woman pretty good, which shows in how well the film performed.

And two, they rushed their film franchise.  Marvel took 4 years and 4 films, which fleshed out their main characters, before they reached Avengers.  All planned out to fit into a bigger picture.  WB/DC took the same 4 years, however, they waited almost 3 years after Man of Steel for another film.  Which was BvS, that came before a film to establish the new Batman or Wonder Woman.  Then, we got what was basically a spin off.  Next, we finally got a Wonder Woman film, the only one to actually perform exceptionally well.  Finally, they jumped straight to their Avengers film, JL, which should have performed the best, but instead did the worst. There's also the feeling that they are just winging it, instead of it all leading to something larger.

Looking at DC's plan, but putting in MCU films, it would have looked like this.

I think the biggest problem is that DC saw what Marvel was doing and wanted to emulate it while simultaneously trying to be the polar opposite. Where Marvel went with the lighter, more jokey tone, DC went for more dour and gritty. They saw the success that Christopher Nolan brought to the Dark Knight trilogy and wanted to emulate that without realizing that such a tone fit for Batman but had no place with Superman or any other DC hero.

Yet, it worked quite well with Wonder Woman, which came closest to emulating the MCU feel.

I mean, yeah, it's definitely possible. It's really going to come down to Ant-Man and the Wasp. If that can make it to $700m, this should happen.

That was DC/WB's problem.  They didnt care about actually creating good movies and story build up.  They rushed everything and tried to get a Justice League move out asap to compete with the Avengers movies rather than giving the audience a better understanding of each character with their own movies.  That's why they didnt even have Green Lantern in the Justice League movie.

Yea that too!  They just added Joker in as some marketing tool just to lure people in to watch it.

What a horrible Joker.  It's like something a teenager in the 90's would have come up with to make an "edgy" X-treme Joker.  Shirtless with a bunch of tatoos and a grill.  And that God awful laugh.  Jared Leto said he would walk down the streets trying different laughs to see which would get the most reactions.  Unfortunately, he misinterpreted the reactions were from the laugh being scary, not annoying.  Congrats to him, he just found the most annoying laugh.

If they want to reboot this universe with actual good movies, I'd suggest Troy Baker.  He's the right height and build. Plus, he does a great Mark Hamill Joker impression, so we could have the animated Joker in a live action film.

Or shoots their #1 guy for absolutely no reason.