I'd hope he only is a "Fan" of Anita because he doesn't want bad press or it's from the culture he comes out of either way, there is no company that is even remotely self aware these days who will be seen doing anything with Anita on any real development level. Maybe, having her close as a shield against the masses but on a design level, not a damn chance. Even BioWare as idiotic as their choices have been, I'd assume are playing it safe and by taking her on. If Druckmann can be in anyway influenced by the far left in his work, I've yet to see it at any apparent level, maybe he is but he masterfully hides it and handles the issues brought up by that crowd, which are important in their own right, with great finesse like the way Ellies sexuality was handled, something I'm sure most people who played that game still wouldn't have picked up on.

I'd hope he only is a "Fan" of Anita because he doesn't want bad press or it's from the culture he comes out of either way, there is no company that is even remotely self aware these days who will be seen doing anything with Anita on any real development level. Maybe, having her close as a shield against the masses but on a design level, not a damn chance. Even BioWare as idiotic as their choices have been, I'd assume are playing it safe and by taking her on. If Druckmann can be in anyway influenced by the far left in his work, I've yet to see it at any apparent level, maybe he is but he masterfully hides it and handles the issues brought up by that crowd, which are important in their own right, with great finesse like the way Ellies sexuality was handled, something I'm sure most people who played that game still wouldn't have picked up on.

Disagree with this. Story was nice but again the reason I call it shoehorned was because there were no hints nor proper build up for it to make it seem that way. The only thing that the first game established was she lost a friend. Not a person who she has intimate feelings for.

Being progressive isn't a terrible thing as long as it's handled properly, the OG star trek for example vr the new Netflix show, I'm sure this man is intelligent and talented enough in his art to know you can't force something on people. I'm sure Druckmann has watched inception, lmao, which should be a must for any writer, hehe, because the concept is just so true to the medium and story telling in general. I think Druckmann can handle himself and if not there are still people in ND who will set him straight, they seem to be a tight team, leadership positions would only come down to the paperwork. At least I hope.

I'm sure you only hate it because you have been force fed it or have only noticed it because of bad implementation. I agree with you however saying that as a blanket statement is akin to censorship, every avenue should be open to the creative team of any medium. I understand you want ND to play it safe but at what cost does playing it safe come, it could easily start including violence or anything sexual. At what point do you then just end up with a bland ass story?

You don't need hints about someone's sexuality. That's the very reason I'm worried. ... The difference is 'I'm a character and the fact I'm gay is of no political merit' compared to 'I'm a character and the fact I'm gay is because the writer wants to virtue signal.' Bob is a perfect example of a character that happens to be gay but during our time with him, it was of no consequence other than to reflect back on the scenes we've just experienced. It's exactly the same for Ellie but the reflection happens over a longer period of time. It forces you to rethink the body of the actual game, particularly the comment by Joel saying 'You have no idea what loss is'. At the time of playing we can appreciate how Joel feels even if we might consider it harsh. But knowing there was 'love' involved (which is the closest you're going to get to 'family') Joel's words take on greater weight. It changes that scene dramatically. 

Throughout the actual DLC and the time we spend in that body of work, there was lots of little hints at the relationship between the two characters. Some people picked up on it and others didn't but it was done subtly and that's the point. Because of that the kiss was beautiful and meaningful, and a fitting goodbye to a character we knew was going to die. Ellie didn't just lose a friend, she lost a loved one, so she DID fully understand what loss was. 

I disagree. The same effect could have been achieved with or without the premise that she lost her lover. In a world torn apart from the violence, having the simplest thing of a living childhood friend is a novelty in itself. But I digress, I will continue to hold my view that the whole thing was shoehorned.

Regarding Bob, it speaks magnitude that I find his story about his partner making more sense because of how it was executed and moreso because of his character.

Or printman / printerman.

Disagree with this. Story was nice but again the reason I call it shoehorned was because there were no hints nor proper build up for it to make it seem that way. The only thing that the first game established was she lost a friend. Not a person who she has intimate feelings for.