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taus90 on 11 March 2018
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iron_megalith said:
GribbleGrunger said:

It didn't actually bother me at all when we found out Ellie was a lesbian. It came on the back of the most honest and sincere writing I've ever seen in video games and so therefore the framing felt natural and not forced. For me, the kiss was one of the most beautiful moments I've ever seen in video games and I had to choke back tears, as us men are prone to do. At that point in his writing career I think he was just expressing his vision for the character and was being true to Ellie. It's not the subject matter than bothers me, it's the intentions behind writing about it. If SJW concerns are at the forefront of his mind when he's writing scripts then it will eventually seep through no matter how hard he tries to hide it. I'd call it the David Cage syndrome. If I get the slightest whiff of this when playing TLOU2 then I don't know if I'll be able to carry on playing the game because a huge factor in playing the first game was the connection honesty created with the narrative.  

But it's only a 'worry' at the moment. 

Disagree with this. Story was nice but again the reason I call it shoehorned was because there were no hints nor proper build up for it to make it seem that way. The only thing that the first game established was she lost a friend. Not a person who she has intimate feelings for.

Yeah i kind of see what you mean.. it was not built up at all while playing the game i was taken aback, in comparison to the last of us (i forgot the other character name Bill!? i guess) his story arc hints of him being gay so it was not at all surprising.. and during entire play throught of the last of US in no way I thought ellie and riley could be in a romantic relationship.

and the biggest red flagging for me was Nadine.. she was the differentiating factor for me in UC4 not being the best game in the series. It was so obvious that he was forced into the story to prove a point. and even in Lost Legacy i would have preferred charlie cutter over her. 

But I think its hard to make people (SJW) understand that we are not against women in games.. its just don't force it for the sake of pleasing a certain section of the crowd.. I would rather have a female director make an awesome action adventure game for the fans, then a guy who thinks he carrys the baton of women empowerment.