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I loved this movie. I've been recommending it to all of my friends, but I just can't get anyone to go see it. It's sad to me that something can be made with such love like this movie, but be screwed over by poor marketing/release schedule. :(

Edit:  I loved the director's previous Ex Machina.  I also very much disliked Thor: Ragnarok and was disappointed with Black Panther.  If anyone is interested in another horror movie to watch, I highly recommend The Ritual on Netflix.



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mizzou_guy said:

I loved this movie. I've been recommending it to all of my friends, but I just can't get anyone to go see it. It's sad to me that something can be made with such love like this movie, but be screwed over by poor marketing/release schedule. :(

Edit:  I loved the director's previous Ex Machina.  I also very much disliked Thor: Ragnarok and was disappointed with Black Panther.  If anyone is interested in another horror movie to watch, I highly recommend The Ritual on Netflix.

The Ritual was pretty cool, yeah! 

I really like Thor: Ragnarok and Black Panther though. I mean, I'm normally into both types of cinema (more cerebral, slow movies mixed with some pop-corn blockbuster) and think they can co-exist. Nevertheless, I'm starting to think that the existence of the more fast-paced pop-corn cinema is eating alive the more mid-tier reflective cinema. I mean, that's not a shocking revelation, but as a person who enjoy both depending on my mood, I'm sad that more movies like Annihilation doesn't come out and be successful.



mizzou_guy said:

I loved this movie. I've been recommending it to all of my friends, but I just can't get anyone to go see it. It's sad to me that something can be made with such love like this movie, but be screwed over by poor marketing/release schedule. :(

Edit:  I loved the director's previous Ex Machina.  I also very much disliked Thor: Ragnarok and was disappointed with Black Panther.  If anyone is interested in another horror movie to watch, I highly recommend The Ritual on Netflix.

I also loved The Ritual, terrific design in the monster that stood out to me.



Nymeria said:
Volterra_90 said:

So, I really want to discuss the film. The film is actually really worth a discussion, and because I don't know yet anybody who's seeing it, I keep my theory about the whole phenomena happening in here. I'll use spoiler tags just in case.

So, I think the phenomena surrounding the lighthouse goes this way. At one point in the film, we discover that what's going on is that everything (light, radio waves, even DNA) refracts in this area. The closer you are to the lighthouse, the more everything refracts. One of the most disturbing scenes in the movie shows how the voice of one of the characters mixed with the monster that kills her, mimicking even her voice. And, in the epicenter of all this phenomena, the "Annihilation" thing is capable of "total reflection". Making copies of everything that touches it. So... I think this has a physics parallelism, which is how light behaves going through a different surface. Light refracts, for example, in a glass of water, and everything we see through a glass of water is kind of messy and mixed (those will be the abnormalities of mixing a bear with a human voice for example). But light reflects in a mirror. Mimicking exactly which is in front of it. That'd be the lighthouse. 

So, the transition in the movie will be from refraction to reflection. I'm still grasping how it affects each character in a different way, because obviously the fact that every character is pretty flawed is not a coincidence. A second watch could clear that, I guess.

I imagined the inverse of if we landed on an alien world how with no malice we could upset the balance there.  The entity that landed seems to be terraforming and incorporating Earth and all the organisms into itself. From our perspective this is a hostile act of corruption or annihilation (!) but we have no idea how it sees this if it thinks in a way we can even perceive. I agree the use of glass, water, and plastic as a motif through the film plays on how perception can be warped when seen through a lens.  The entity may see our world as confusing and refracted and is "correcting" it to make sense of it.

Yeah, I think so. We really couldn't say that the entity itself is malign. It just... is that way. Maybe isn't even sentient at all, it's just doing what he usually does, or he could be sentient and feel terrified in a hostile environment. I've also found similarities between the entity and all the talking about cancer. It was like a cancer which was spreading through the world. Pretty similarly on how cancer spread through the human body, mutating and altering our body. That was pretty terrifying to think about. In fact, I'd say this movie managed to horrify me more than a lot of horror films I've seen in my li

Really, I just can't state enough how pissed I am for not seeing this on cinema. I just hate that they've just treated the audience like we were stupid. 

Last edited by Volterra_90 - on 14 March 2018

Nymeria said:
sub-zero-TM said:
I really didn't like the trailer .. it reminded me of the new ghostbusters movie with all those women.

Is it anything close to the new Blade Runner movie for example? cause that one was a masterpiece.

I hated the Ghostbusters reboot.  The fact it is a women team is explained within the world and makes sense, there is zero "girl power" and the characters have depth, flaws, and make mistakes.  I'd rate it a 9/10 while I'd give Ghosterbusters Reboot a 2/10, they aren't in the same hemisphere in terms of film making.

From a technical perspective I'd say Annihiliation is the best sci-fi movie I've seen since Blade Runner 2049, but I wouldn't put it on the same level.  Both deserve to be seen on a big screen though.

Thanks for this great thread and topic. You make very good points and I very much agree with how you see the film and its context in the movie landscape 

Lawlight said:
I hear it’s a very slow movie. I think movies don’t have to be slow to be good.

Did not feel slow to me but fitting pace. It's not supposed to be a fast paced action blockbuster, but that doesn't mean it had lengths or boring parts 

Killy_Vorkosigan said:
Really nice movie, a bit unsettling, uncanny visuals.

However I hate the somebody-in-the-team-cracks-and-tries-to-fuck-up-everyone trope

Agreed, that was a bit too cliche. That's the only thing I didn't like about the movie

NightDragon83 said:
arcaneguyver said:
The RLM review was the first I heard of this film, and I really want to see it now. Most criticism I hear is "it's too slow" or "I could't follow it."

That's because it wasn't a big dumb action / superhero flick designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator of movie audiences.  General audiences would rather go see Black Panther for a 5th time.

Exactly 



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Nymeria said:
SuperRetroTurbo said:
Glad someone agrees with me. I saw it a few weeks ago. I was unexpectedly surprised at the overall quality of the film. I'm not a movie buff...very far from it but I can honestly say...after seeing this movie...it instantly became one of my favourite of all time.

PS: Spoiler!!!





I think it's her clone at the end. I'm sure of it.

I think the idea is it mixes and refracts ones make up making your identity blend with it, like a host where defining beginning and end is hard to say.

For post release cast interviews..when asked what should viewers pay attention to?...Natalie Portman says, "Echoes." As soon as she said that...I had the epiphany. The supporting characters reveal a lot when they reiterate what they believed happened to the previous deployment of soldiers. I'll leave it at that for the sake of any more spoils...but you should know what it is I'm getting at. Basically 1 of 2 things happens to EVERYONE who enters....



Insert Coin. Press START. You Died. Continue?

Saw it last night and it was really good. I’m trying to read what people are saying in the spoiler text but for some reason my iPad isn’t letting me.



The movie that was cut and shown on Netflix is not a good movie.
I can understand what the director was aiming but the final product has more problems with editing and reshoots than Suicide Squad.

It felt like half a hour was cut out of the film.

Spoilers:
Why isn't the movie called "Assimilation"?



Saw it on Netflix the other day and all I can say is... what a waste.

It had a good idea for a move, but the execution was woeful. Started out pretty promising but had turned to crap by the end.



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Saw this movie a couple of weeks in theaters and it's now one of my favorite movies. I can understand some people not liking it as it is not for everybody, but that doesn't make it a bad movie. I don't think seeing it on Netflix has the same effect on the viewer. The scene at the lighthouse is strongly enhanced by the soundtrack.