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Do you think Pokemon games should be more challenging?

Yes, they are becoming too easy as of late. 11 68.75%
 
No, keep the difficult parts in the postgame. 4 25.00%
 
I don't care about Pokemon. 1 6.25%
 
Total:16
fatslob-:O on 28 February 2018
Teeqoz said:

Because challenge can be fun?

I guess but if you REALLY want to be challenged then you could just seek the eSports scene instead and get destroyed by professionals ... 



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Teeqoz on 28 February 2018
fatslob-:O said:
Teeqoz said:

Because challenge can be fun?

I guess but if you REALLY want to be challenged then you could just seek the eSports scene instead and get destroyed by professionals ... 

And that level of challenge wouldn't be fun (for most people), and would also require a lot more resources and effort.



fatslob-:O on 28 February 2018
Teeqoz said:

And that level of challenge wouldn't be fun (for most people), and would also require a lot more resources and effort.

How about implementing ranked matches ? 



uran10 on 28 February 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
Platina said:
Gen VI and VII with the Exp All made things much simpler. Takes away a lot of grinding so I really like it, but it does make the game easier as well.

I only had issues at the beginning of Pokemon Moon when I had no Pokemon to combat the Magnemite at the School. (Only had Popplio, Pichu and Pikipek at the time)

The difficulty in ORAS seemed to be lowered, but I think Pokemon SM/USUM was able to get the difficult right, by taking into consideration the EXP all.

Serves you right for choosing the worst starter

But still, situations like that are pretty interesting, even if there's only a 1 in 3 chance of them happening. I still remember the difficulty of facing Brock in Red/Blue if you started with Charmander.

He clearly chose the best starter.

But I wouldn't say sun/moon were easy. I mean with the way I played it was more difficult to the point where I got rekt by an alolan raichu due to being under levelled. But I will say that a nuzlocke of sun and moon is something that will be hard especially US/UM. There are multiple totem pokemon that come to mind that will in fact kill you unless you overlevel. The grass one stands out, mimikyu could do it. And in US/UM the dragon psuedo legend... who I was multiple levels higher than surprised me when it took a moon blast due to its item then proceeded to destroy my team actually forcing me to use items. ORAS is the worst remake of a pokemon game hands down and it is too easy. But you wont have the problem with sun and moon, i've seen people do them... the majority fail, pretty early on.



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uran10 on 28 February 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
uran10 said:

He clearly chose the best starter.

But I wouldn't say sun/moon were easy. I mean with the way I played it was more difficult to the point where I got rekt by an alolan raichu due to being under levelled. But I will say that a nuzlocke of sun and moon is something that will be hard especially US/UM. There are multiple totem pokemon that come to mind that will in fact kill you unless you overlevel. The grass one stands out, mimikyu could do it. And in US/UM the dragon psuedo legend... who I was multiple levels higher than surprised me when it took a moon blast due to its item then proceeded to destroy my team actually forcing me to use items. ORAS is the worst remake of a pokemon game hands down and it is too easy. But you wont have the problem with sun and moon, i've seen people do them... the majority fail, pretty early on.

Water type is the best starter in some Pokemon games. But Sun/Moon aren't among them

It definitely is. Primarina has saved my ass so many times, easily one of the better water starters. Definitely better than the penguin and the otter for sure.



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uran10 on 28 February 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
uran10 said:

It definitely is. Primarina has saved my ass so many times, easily one of the better water starters. Definitely better than the penguin and the otter for sure.

Dunno how strong it is, but anything that's in the running for the "ugliest Pokemon ever" award can't be considered as best starter

Popplio is far from ugly ka-pi and I don't know where you've been but the only ugly form of the starters for gen 7 is incineroar. Primarina is beautiful and decidueye looks cool. Popplio is definitely not ugly in anyway.



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uran10 on 28 February 2018
Ka-pi96 said:
uran10 said:

Popplio is far from ugly ka-pi and I don't know where you've been but the only ugly form of the starters for gen 7 is incineroar. Primarina is beautiful and decidueye looks cool. Popplio is definitely not ugly in anyway.

Incineroar doesn't look great, no, but Popplio and it's evolutions look like joke Pokemon. Like you'd expect to see them in some cheap Pokemon knock off instead of as actual Pokemon.

nah bro... nah.... we agreeing to disagree because you can't be dissing primarina and brionne.



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palou on 28 February 2018
fatslob-:O said:

Pokemon is hardly a competitive game so for what reason does it have to become a harder game ?

There *is* actually a fairly large competitive scene for Pokemon, though that probably isn't relevant to the discussion...



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fatslob-:O on 28 February 2018
palou said:

There *is* actually a fairly large competitive scene for Pokemon, though that probably isn't relevant to the discussion...

Too bad most of the *legit* players in tournaments come with edited Pokemons ... 

Last edited by fatslob-:O - on 28 February 2018