I think its more to do with switch having no new releases compared to that of x1/ps4 having 2 big games (not system sellers)

Yeah, I think some people who are discrediting the impact of MHW and DBFZ in the west for the PS4/XB1 are forgetting that the most relevant release the Switch got in January was a digital, multiplat, indie, 2D platformer in Celeste.

You cannot compare the Switch’s first year to the PS4’s 2014 because the Switch had 2 major selling periods - the launch and the holidays vs the PS4’s holidays only. On top of that, the PS4 was $100 more expensive.

And the only the PS3 and the Xbox360 peaked later so 1 generation doesn’t make it the norm.

@Bolded. Uh, yeah, I can, because that's the time frame that makes the most sense. The only other alternative would be to compare the Switch's 2017 to the PS4's 2013, and while those were both launch years for those systems, we'd be comparing the Switch's 10-month period with the PS4's launch holiday. Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. That's why comparing the Switch's 2017 with the PS4's 2014 makes more sense. While the Switch did launch in March, it sold about as much that month as one might expect for the whole of Q1 for a system with its level of sales. The Switch sold 910k that month, whereas the PS4 has ranged from 874k to 1007k for Q1 sales. That effectively levels out. That leaves us with both system's first full Q2+Q3 period, and their first full post-launch Q4. It's as close to an apples-to-apples comparison we can get.

And if you want to bring up pricing, well, that pretty much invalidates most comparisons between any two systems, because we haven't had two systems in one generation launch at the exact same price since the PS2 & OXbox.

"First 12 months"? No. That still goes to the PS4 this gen. Even without a full post-launch holiday period (which would represent months 13 & 14), the PS4 still outpaced the 3DS launch-aligned. Even if we compare the 3DS's 2011 with the PS4's 2014, which is a more apt comparison for the same reasons I explained to Lawlight above re: the Switch vs. the PS4, the 3DS still loses. The 3DS had a lackluster launch month, and its baseline sales weren't all that great either until it got a price drop. I personally don't like doing straight launch-aligned comparisons of systems that were holiday launches with systems that launched in the first half of the year, but if you insist, then the PS4 still wins regardless.

Also, the Switch sold better last year than the 3DS did in 2011, as well, at least for the year as a whole. Here's a comparison of the Switch's 2017 with the 3DS's 2011, with the PS4's 2014 thrown in for good measure:

@Bolded. Uh, yeah, I can, because that's the time frame that makes the most sense. The only other alternative would be to compare the Switch's 2017 to the PS4's 2013, and while those were both launch years for those systems, we'd be comparing the Switch's 10-month period with the PS4's launch holiday. Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison. That's why comparing the Switch's 2017 with the PS4's 2014 makes more sense. While the Switch did launch in March, it sold about as much that month as one might expect for the whole of Q1 for a system with its level of sales. The Switch sold 910k that month, whereas the PS4 has ranged from 874k to 1007k for Q1 sales. That effectively levels out. That leaves us with both system's first full Q2+Q3 period, and their first full post-launch Q4. It's as close to an apples-to-apples comparison we can get.

And if you want to bring up pricing, well, that pretty much invalidates most comparisons between any two systems, because we haven't had two systems in one generation launch at the exact same price since the PS2 & OXbox.

"First 12 months"? No. That still goes to the PS4 this gen. Even without a full post-launch holiday period (which would represent months 13 & 14), the PS4 still outpaced the 3DS launch-aligned. Even if we compare the 3DS's 2011 with the PS4's 2014, which is a more apt comparison for the same reasons I explained to Lawlight above re: the Switch vs. the PS4, the 3DS still loses. The 3DS had a lackluster launch month, and its baseline sales weren't all that great either until it got a price drop. I personally don't like doing straight launch-aligned comparisons of systems that were holiday launches with systems that launched in the first half of the year, but if you insist, then the PS4 still wins regardless.

Also, the Switch sold better last year than the 3DS did in 2011, as well, at least for the year as a whole. Here's a comparison of the Switch's 2017 with the 3DS's 2011, with the PS4's 2014 thrown in for good measure:

That doesn't matter in the slightest. That's a normal price for a home console. $300 for a handheld however is very expensive and the Switch is currently competing against a cheaper PS4 and Xbox One. And it's still kicking ass despite all this. 

PS4 had it very easy actually. Its main competition was a weaker home console that was $100 more expensive and the Wii U.

Are they really that big outside of Japan though? MHW especially sold great compared to other entries and was #1 but was it really as big of a system seller/pusher in the West as people are trying to make it out to be? And the Switch has won months in which it had no new releases since launch so why is it a surprise that it won lol. It is still the hot new item on the market after all.

I have seen no one discrediting the impact of MHW and DBFZ in the west but I am seen people pretending they were these huge games in the west like they were supposed to push lots of systems. When the place that they were going to have the biggest impact they did. And as I stated above switch has won months where it had no new releases since it launched. It is still the hottest new item so why is it surprising? The surprise would have come if it HAD NOT won this month.

My thoughts exactly..... All of a sudden MHW and DBZ have become these great titles. 

How about they have this conversation again when GOW or RDR2 launches..... hell even then we could still use the (very good mind you) excuse that we are comparing 4yr old consoles to an under 1 year old one. 

Being under 1 year old is not a help.  Consoles peak at year 2, 3, or 4, not 1 typically.  

And no one is saying DBFZ and MHW are massive system sellers.  But they were the biggest sellers of the month and they were more than the Switch had pushing systems.  That is, nothing.

Being under 1 year old is not a help.  Consoles peak at year 2, 3, or 4, not 1 typically.  

And no one is saying DBFZ and MHW are massive system sellers.  But they were the biggest sellers of the month and they were more than the Switch had pushing systems.  That is, nothing.