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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
quickrick said:

the 13 million figure excludes asia and latin america. 

Wrong. It doesn't include parts of Asia. You are right about Latin America. But the point is including ROW sales - there is no way the Switch didn't sell 13 million by December 31st. Even when you don't include the areas Nintendo didn't include. In other words what you're saying is BS. Nintendo wouldn't report that the sales were 13 million by January 21st because just the three main regions alone already go up to 12.5 million. The exclusions wouldn't make up for it because as far back as December 30th(three weeks before the january 21st stats) it already sold 1.5 million ROW . This means that even if that number did exclude Latin America and parts of Asia, it still wouldn't change the fact that a measly 1/3 of ROW would still put it at 13 million by December 31st ... 

There is logically no way that it didn't sell 13 million by December 31st and you know it. 

its actually all of asia excluding  japan, according to the pic. actually its pretty much impossible  it sold 13 million by the 31 excluding asia and latin america that further strengthens my point, we have numbers this is a fact.  



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Intrinsic said:

Yup, the XB1 dropped like a rock as predicted. Their problem is one that would take years to fix. And thats assuming they start now. Doing 80k weeks worldwide is just bad. Thats like saying they have a 350k average a month while nintendo and sony will be pushing like 1M a month.

I think the demise of the XB1 is more relevant than if the NS sold over 13M or 14M. The thing is already going to be a 50M plus selling console and probably in record time. The PS4 has hit every relevant milestone it needs to hit and is for sure going to hit the 100M one eventually. 

Whats worthy of discussion here is the XB1.

I still think the XBO will reach about 55 million lifetime. Some people can say they are doomed all they want but it is rather impressive to sell that many consoles considering they didn't even try for half the gen



quickrick said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Wrong. It doesn't include parts of Asia. You are right about Latin America. But the point is including ROW sales - there is no way the Switch didn't sell 13 million by December 31st. Even when you don't include the areas Nintendo didn't include. In other words what you're saying is BS. Nintendo wouldn't report that the sales were 13 million by January 21st because just the three main regions alone already go up to 12.5 million. The exclusions wouldn't make up for it because as far back as December 30th(three weeks before the january 21st stats) it already sold 1.5 million ROW . This means that even if that number did exclude Latin America and parts of Asia, it still wouldn't change the fact that a measly 1/3 of ROW would still put it at 13 million by December 31st ... 

There is logically no way that it didn't sell 13 million by December 31st and you know it. 

its actually all of asia excluding  japanaccording to the pic. actually its pretty much impossible  it sold 13 million by the 31 excluding asia and latin america that further strengthens my point, we have numbers this is a fact.  

Care to explain why this would be impossible? Because you think Nintendo can't possibly sell 3 Million consoles in 3 weeks during holiday season?



quickrick said:

I just showed you that we have the numbers showing it DID sell 13 million by December 31st. Are you being serious? You can't just say as a reply "actually numbers dis fact numbers dis fact prety mcuh imposible dis fact". You didn't show anything in this reply, no extra context or numbers or values to prove your point, so all I can guess is that you're pretty much wrong and don't have anything to say. Seriously, just reread the last sentence in your comment and you aren't actually saying anything worth of substance. By the way, the picture is very general because it's just a side asterisk. If you look at the Q&A I showed earlier it did in fact say that the numbers only didn't include parts of Asia, which isn't specific. That might mean they only include Japan, it might mean they include other parts of Asia as well. Who knows? But it would take a very small amount of ROW sales to get that 13 million figure, so I don't see how it's impossible ... 

Here's something you need to consider : Why does it even MATTER? If we have a good estimation that it probably sold around 1.5-2 million ROW by January 21st, and we know it sold at least 12.5 million in the three major regions by January 21st ... then we already know the number is either 14 or 14.5 million. And actually ROW sales were already at around 1.5 million by December 31st, so it would be over 13 million not including certain ROW. So why does it MATTER? The only reason to use this is to try and downplay a company for no reason. Who cares? You're only doing this to try and downplay Nintendo. Which is pointless, there's no reason to do that except for a stupid agenda.



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newwil7l said:
Intrinsic said:

Yup, the XB1 dropped like a rock as predicted. Their problem is one that would take years to fix. And thats assuming they start now. Doing 80k weeks worldwide is just bad. Thats like saying they have a 350k average a month while nintendo and sony will be pushing like 1M a month.

I think the demise of the XB1 is more relevant than if the NS sold over 13M or 14M. The thing is already going to be a 50M plus selling console and probably in record time. The PS4 has hit every relevant milestone it needs to hit and is for sure going to hit the 100M one eventually. 

Whats worthy of discussion here is the XB1.

They didn't even try for half the gen

Didnt try?

They have cut the price pretty much annually, they have released all of their big exclusive IP, they have paid for exclusivity for some really big franchises, they have released a redesign and an upgrade, they are now going to have all their IP available day 1 through Game Pass.....

They have tried their asses off.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
quickrick said:

its actually all of asia excluding  japanaccording to the pic. actually its pretty much impossible  it sold 13 million by the 31 excluding asia and latin america that further strengthens my point, we have numbers this is a fact.  

Care to explain why this would be impossible? Because you think Nintendo can't possibly sell 3 Million consoles in 3 weeks during holiday season?

well NPD tracks starting november 26 we know nintendo hit 10 million by  this date december 4-10, so by best case scenario you need to  shave off 8 days plus cyber monday  in the npd results of 1.5 million, that would put it at 1 million in north america, then japan would be around 550k, that would only leave europe which is much weaker then north america.        



Intrinsic said:

Yup, the XB1 dropped like a rock as predicted. Their problem is one that would take years to fix. And thats assuming they start now. Doing 80k weeks worldwide is just bad. Thats like saying they have a 350k average a month while nintendo and sony will be pushing like 1M a month.

I think the demise of the XB1 is more relevant than if the NS sold over 13M or 14M. The thing is already going to be a 50M plus selling console and probably in record time. The PS4 has hit every relevant milestone it needs to hit and is for sure going to hit the 100M one eventually. 

Whats worthy of discussion here is the XB1.

I had a post all done up, nice and pretty, but decided not to post it, due to being a bit similar to one a made a couple months ago. I agree with you that Xbox is in a less than healthy position, and fixing it is going to be tough. I think they're pretty much fucked in the foreseeable future as far as competing with Sony and Nintendo is concerned. They've been messing up for so long now, since before this gen started, that the position they find themselves in, at the very least, isn't a surprise. The X has arguably weakened their position, as it has done almost exactly jack and shit in terms of bolstering their numbers, and will serve to further inhibit their ability to release a successor the the XB1 and compete with Sony's next offering in a timely manner. And, as has been said around these parts by myself and others, it's probably going to be more difficult than ever to convince customers to jump ship and switch over to Xbox from PS, or vice versa. Sony would have to start rounding up people and putting them into work camps for me to consider bailing on my connection to the PS ecosystem, my friends, and my digital library.





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quickrick said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Care to explain why this would be impossible? Because you think Nintendo can't possibly sell 3 Million consoles in 3 weeks during holiday season?

well NPD tracks starting november 26 we know nintendo hit 10 million by  this date december 4-10, so by best case scenario you need to  shave off 8 days plus cyber monday  in the npd results of 1.5 million, that would put it at 1 million in north america, then japan would be around 550k, that would only leave europe which is much weaker then north america.        

There are so many inaccurency in what you say, I don't know where to start



SKMBlake said:
quickrick said:

well NPD tracks starting november 26 we know nintendo hit 10 million by  this date december 4-10, so by best case scenario you need to  shave off 8 days plus cyber monday  in the npd results of 1.5 million, that would put it at 1 million in north america, then japan would be around 550k, that would only leave europe which is much weaker then north america.        

There are so many inaccurency in what you say, I don't know where to start

What's wrong? you seem to have all these drive by posts against me, with nothing productive to say.