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Nuvendil on 23 February 2018
quickrick said:
Nuvendil said:

It may well be close.  For PS4 and Switch anyway, I expect Xbox to start falling off as we move further from the X's launch which was merely a bandage over a problem that requires major surgery.  However, looking to those charts to determine when tides are turning is unwise.  They are much more volatile for one.  We also do not have any real way of knowing what percentage of sales are tracked.  Do brick and mortar sales count towards these lists?  If not, then what percentage of sales is missing?  And then of course they historically much worse predictors.  

I fully expect PS4 to be competitive.  The PlayStation brand is very strong and the PS4 has tremendous momentum and some big exclusives coming up.  But I'm not going to make predictions or claim things are swinging this way or that based on one and a half months of sales into 2018, only 1 month of which we have even general data without particulars.

my theory switch is a much better seller online, and switch has been dominating at best buy and gamestop lists so it's just a theory. i honestly think xbox might take it February, it has some great deals for the month, and had a impressive JAN.

I'll go ahead and say I don't see Xbox taking February.  In fact, I don't think it will take any month this year barring a madhouse of a fire sale.  But then again, those have become less and less effective as time has gone by.  The Xbox brand has serious issues, even in the states.  They have a lot more rebuilding to do if they want to be competitive long term with PS4 or Switch, assuming the Nintendo and Switch brands continue their momentum.  



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quickrick on 23 February 2018
Nuvendil said:
quickrick said:

my theory switch is a much better seller online, and switch has been dominating at best buy and gamestop lists so it's just a theory. i honestly think xbox might take it February, it has some great deals for the month, and had a impressive JAN.

I'll go ahead and say I don't see Xbox taking February.  In fact, I don't think it will take any month this year barring a madhouse of a fire sale.  But then again, those have become less and less effective as time has gone by.  The Xbox brand has serious issues, even in the states.  They have a lot more rebuilding to do if they want to be competitive long term with PS4 or Switch, assuming the Nintendo and Switch brands continue their momentum.  

they were close to winning last month, and this month they are having a fire sale, i don't see how they lose feb. 

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-one-s-price-cut-in-us-feb-18-mar-3-ca-feb-15-23-one-x-pubg-deal.23739/.



KBG29 on 23 February 2018

Console + VR Rankings 2/23/2018

  • #15 Neon Switch
  • #25 Grey Switch
  • #39 XBO S Minecraft Bundle
  • #42 XBO X
  • #45 PSVR Skyrim Bundle
  • #50 PS4 Slim
  • #56 PS4 Pro
  • #62 XBO S PUGB Bundle
  • #63 PS4 Pro SWBFII Bundle
  • #66 Oculus Rift + Touch Bundle
  • #70 XBO S FH3 Hot Wheels Bundle
  • #76 XBO S 500GB
  • #78 XBO S Madden 18 Bundle
PSVR and Oculus continue to hold on in the top 100. VR is looking to be a bit stronger this year than last. Hope both companies can continue to move units, and establish this amazing new market for digital interaction and expereinces. See ya' all tomorrow.


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Nuvendil on 23 February 2018
quickrick said:
Nuvendil said:

I'll go ahead and say I don't see Xbox taking February.  In fact, I don't think it will take any month this year barring a madhouse of a fire sale.  But then again, those have become less and less effective as time has gone by.  The Xbox brand has serious issues, even in the states.  They have a lot more rebuilding to do if they want to be competitive long term with PS4 or Switch, assuming the Nintendo and Switch brands continue their momentum.  

they were close to winning last month, and this month they are having a fire sale, i don't see how they lose feb. 

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-one-s-price-cut-in-us-feb-18-mar-3-ca-feb-15-23-one-x-pubg-deal.23739/.

Same way they lost every month last year: their sales aren't having the impact they used to.  That's what happens when you abuse the practice.  They might beat Sony, who isn't doing much, but even that's no guarantee.



quickrick on 23 February 2018
Nuvendil said:
quickrick said:

they were close to winning last month, and this month they are having a fire sale, i don't see how they lose feb. 

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-one-s-price-cut-in-us-feb-18-mar-3-ca-feb-15-23-one-x-pubg-deal.23739/.

Same way they lost every month last year: their sales aren't having the impact they used to.  That's what happens when you abuse the practice.  They might beat Sony, who isn't doing much, but even that's no guarantee.

umm  xbox destroyed switch in november, was close in December which is nintedno main month, and was close in January  with out discounts, i think xbox is taking February based on this trend. 



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Nuvendil on 23 February 2018
quickrick said:
Nuvendil said:

Same way they lost every month last year: their sales aren't having the impact they used to.  That's what happens when you abuse the practice.  They might beat Sony, who isn't doing much, but even that's no guarantee.

umm  xbox destroyed switch in november, was close in December which is nintedno main month, and was close in January  with out discounts, i think xbox is taking February based on this trend. 

And it lost to PlayStation.  I specifically said it did not win a single month in 2017 and it didnt.  Sony or Nintendo won.  It claimed second, what, a couple times?  Or was it once?  And Microsoft tried multiple times during the year with deals and bundles.  Nothing worked outside November and even then it wasn't enough to topple Playstation.  I highly doubt that has changed.  So I highly doubt Xbone will win February when our most reliable indicator says it will not and the pattern for the last 12 months has been for it to lose, no matter what they tried.

And there's a sale, yes.  But nothing compared to their insane deals in 2014 or their black friday push.  But believe whatever you want.  Just know the odds are pretty definitively stacked against you and if you dig your heels in on this you are likely to be once again called out for being wrong.



quickrick on 23 February 2018
Nuvendil said:
quickrick said:

umm  xbox destroyed switch in november, was close in December which is nintedno main month, and was close in January  with out discounts, i think xbox is taking February based on this trend. 

And it lost to PlayStation.  I specifically said it did not win a single month in 2017 and it didnt.  Sony or Nintendo won.  It claimed second, what, a couple times?  Or was it once?  And Microsoft tried multiple times during the year with deals and bundles.  Nothing worked outside November and even then it wasn't enough to topple Playstation.  I highly doubt that has changed.  So I highly doubt Xbone will win February when our most reliable indicator says it will not and the pattern for the last 12 months has been for it to lose, no matter what they tried.

And there's a sale, yes.  But nothing compared to their insane deals in 2014 or their black friday push.  But believe whatever you want.  Just know the odds are pretty definitively stacked against you and if you dig your heels in on this you are likely to be once again called out for being wrong.

it lost to playstation November because it had 199$ deal, i don't really care for rankings when making predictions, i'm looking at sales numbers, amazon is useful but i really doubt, it can make accurate predictions based on 10-20k units, i really would like to see jan numbers to see how much switch won by to make a better prediction.

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Miyamotoo on 23 February 2018
quickrick said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

I know it hurts that Switch won yet another NPD over PS4, but don't fret too much, PS4 no doubt won Japan and WW by a huge margin for Jan and most likely Feb. You'll get to brag again soon, in due time my friend 

well obviously it looks like i'm wrong so far about switch losing momentum , but there are way more people saying 6 -7 million in the US this year that don't get called out for it. when switch is just doing regular ps4 numbers in the US, except for december.

Fact that Switch with only Indie releases in January sold more than PS4 and XB1 that had MHW and DBZ is very impressive in any case. Point that Switch is selling similar to PS4 in any case is impressive in any case because PS4 has great sales in any case and most likly it will become best selling home console of all time. In any case. :D

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Oneeee-Chan!!! on 23 February 2018

So what happened to PS4 ?



quickrick on 23 February 2018
Miyamotoo said:
quickrick said:

well obviously it looks like i'm wrong so far about switch losing momentum , but there are way more people saying 6 -7 million in the US this year that don't get called out for it. when switch is just doing regular ps4 numbers in the US, except for december.

Fact that Switch with only Indie releases in January sold more than PS4 and XB1 that had MHW is very impressive in any case. Point that Switch is selling similar to PS4 in any case is impressive any case because PS4 has great sales in any case and most likly it will become best selling home console of all time.

ps4 basically sold the same amount it's alway been selling jan. my point is why do people think switch is gonna do 7 milllion when it hasn't even had 1 month where it clearly beat ps4/xb1 numbers by a large margin.