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quickrick on 20 February 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

 thats in japan, it should better then 2017, but The way demand fell expect the same WW.

Um ok.

At its current 44k baseline followed by a standard holiday boost than it will be up YOY in Japan.

So if we apply the same "drop in demand" than it will be up YOY throughout the world.

 

And again this assumes no future software raises this baseline.

japan was selling out everything they shipped, many people were saying they could sell what ever they ship, if they shipped 400k, they would have sold that much, there was no evidence suggesting other wise till now.



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Bofferbrauer2 on 20 February 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Read the last sentance.

In other words, SWITCH STILL HAS ITS STOCK ISSUES, but the situation has improved.

 

There is a large middleground between easy to find and sold out, Switch in Japan is in that middleground. Its not sold out for days at a time but it still sells out quickly and you still have to actively look for one instead of just walk into any store and find a pile of them.

Because nintendo is doing a shit job shipping consoles there, they shipped 3.72 million by DEC 31, according to media create they still haven't sold that much, evidence is strongly suggesting artificial shortages.

Yeah, like Sony not sending consoles to Amazon US to sell more consoles in the US



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quickrick on 20 February 2018
Bofferbrauer2 said:
quickrick said:

Because nintendo is doing a shit job shipping consoles there, they shipped 3.72 million by DEC 31, according to media create they still haven't sold that much, evidence is strongly suggesting artificial shortages.

Yeah, like Sony not sending consoles to Amazon US to sell more consoles in the US

there must have been a problem/error with sony's shipment to amazon, but please lets not compare shipments to amazon to shipments to a whole country



zorg1000 on 20 February 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Um ok.

At its current 44k baseline followed by a standard holiday boost than it will be up YOY in Japan.

So if we apply the same "drop in demand" than it will be up YOY throughout the world.

 

And again this assumes no future software raises this baseline.

japan was selling out everything they shipped, many people were saying they could sell what ever they ship, if they shipped 400k, they would have sold that much, there was no evidence suggesting other wise till now.

That literally has nothing to do with what i said and is just you trying to deflect the fact that you said demand is slowing down with no evidence to support it.



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duduspace1 on 20 February 2018
quickrick said:

there must have been a problem/error with sony's shipment to amazon, but please lets not compare shipments to amazon to shipments to a whole country

This is rather ridiculous, we have one of the fastest selling consoles in history and you're alleging deliberate withholding of stock ??? Seriously ???



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quickrick on 20 February 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

japan was selling out everything they shipped, many people were saying they could sell what ever they ship, if they shipped 400k, they would have sold that much, there was no evidence suggesting other wise till now.

That literally has nothing to do with what i said and is just you trying to deflect the fact that you said demand is slowing down with no evidence to support it.

its a matter of opinion really, many expected a baseline of 70-80k in japan, for me it doing 40-45k a week in  japan, is surprising, its not doing bad, buts it aint doing anything amazing. i see that as demand slowing down.  



quickrick on 20 February 2018
duduspace1 said:
quickrick said:

there must have been a problem/error with sony's shipment to amazon, but please lets not compare shipments to amazon to shipments to a whole country

This is rather ridiculous, we have one of the fastest selling consoles in history and you're alleging deliberate withholding of stock ??? Seriously ???

umm yea based on the evidence we have, 3.72 million shipped by DEC 31. 50 days later, japan should have received another 280k units which would have resolved stock issues, they did the same thing for big releases last year, stock piling for the big release  in japan.  

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zorg1000 on 20 February 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

That literally has nothing to do with what i said and is just you trying to deflect the fact that you said demand is slowing down with no evidence to support it.

its a matter of opinion really, many expected a baseline of 70-80k in japan, for me it doing 40-45k a week in  japan, is surprising, its not doing bad, buts it aint doing anything amazing. i see that as demand slowing down.  

You dont seem to understand math and peoples expectations are irrelevent to this discussion.

In Q1-Q3 of 2017, Switch averaged ~45k/week.

So far in 2018, Switch has averaged ~61k/week.

By no definition of the word has demand dropped.

Not being 100% sold out does not mean demand has dropped.



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zorg1000 on 20 February 2018
quickrick said:
duduspace1 said:

This is rather ridiculous, we have one of the fastest selling consoles in history and you're alleging deliberate withholding of stock ??? Seriously ???

umm yea based on the evidence we have, 3.72 million shipped by DEC 31. 50 days later, japan should have received another 280k units which would have resolved stock issues, they did the same thing for big releases last year, stock piling for the big release  in japan.  

You do realize shipped is not just what is on shelves but also what is in transit. Nintendo has certainly shipped a further 280k in the last 6 weeks.



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quickrick on 20 February 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

its a matter of opinion really, many expected a baseline of 70-80k in japan, for me it doing 40-45k a week in  japan, is surprising, its not doing bad, buts it aint doing anything amazing. i see that as demand slowing down.  

You dont seem to understand math and peoples expectations are irrelevent to this discussion.

In Q1-Q3 of 2017, Switch averaged ~45k/week.

So far in 2018, Switch has averaged ~61k/week.

By no definition of the word has demand dropped.

Not being 100% sold out does not mean demand has dropped.

you don't seem to understand context. so if  switch starts doing 20k a week for the next 2 weeks, thats not slowing down? it would still have a higher average, but with clear signs its slowing down.