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JSG87 on 26 January 2018
ArnoldRimmer said:
JSG87 said:

This year

12% making Switch Games

15% Saif their next game would be on Switch.

[...]

28% games released on Switch have outsold their counterparts on other Platforms

23% have seen Average sales on Switch

16% said that sales were lower on Switch.

The rest said they hadn't released anything on Switch.

The above information is obviously contradictory.

12% of the developers said they are making Switch games, 15% said there next game would be on Switch. So the percentage of developers who have already released a game on Switch should be somewhere in that area, 15-20% at most.

On the other hand, only (100-28-23-16)% = 33% said the hadn't released anything on Switch yet? So (28+23+16)% = 67% already have released something on Switch? That doesn't make sense...

 

No.

 

No the numbers regarding sales are literally to do with everyone that has released a game obviously but it doesn't mean it's 100% of everyone that was surveyed. Read the article to get a clearer picture.



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ArnoldRimmer on 26 January 2018
JSG87 said:
ArnoldRimmer said:

The above information is obviously contradictory.

12% of the developers said they are making Switch games, 15% said there next game would be on Switch. So the percentage of developers who have already released a game on Switch should be somewhere in that area, 15-20% at most.

On the other hand, only (100-28-23-16)% = 33% said the hadn't released anything on Switch yet? So (28+23+16)% = 67% already have released something on Switch? That doesn't make sense...

No the numbers regarding sales are literally to do with everyone that has released a game obviously but it doesn't mean it's 100% of everyone that was surveyed. Read the article to get a clearer picture.

Sorry, I don't get what you're trying to say with that.

But after having a look at the two articles you've linked, I believe to have indeed discovered a plausible explanation; it seems like you just completely made this part up:

JSG87 said:

The rest said they hadn't released anything on Switch.

Apparently, those remaining 33% were not people who said they hadn't released anything on Switch; instead, those remaining 33% were developers who said that none of the other options (better/average/worse) applied to them for some reason.



JSG87 on 26 January 2018
ArnoldRimmer said:
JSG87 said:

No the numbers regarding sales are literally to do with everyone that has released a game obviously but it doesn't mean it's 100% of everyone that was surveyed. Read the article to get a clearer picture.

Sorry, I don't get what you're trying to say with that.

But after having a look at the two articles you've linked, I believe to have indeed discovered a plausible explanation; it seems like you just completely made this part up:

JSG87 said:

The rest said they hadn't released anything on Switch.

Apparently, those remaining 33% were not people who said they hadn't released anything on Switch; instead, those remaining 33% were developers who said that none of the other options (better/average/worse) applied to them for some reason.

Or perhaps I got muddled up when typing what I was typing and misinformed you guys om this post but why would I like make it up on purpose? Lol.



zorg1000 on 26 January 2018
Intrinsic said:
Miyamotoo said:
Good news, espacily part about 3rd party games that sell quite good on Switch.

This is one of those things where i can gaurantee you its not all as it seems.

indie ga,es are third party too you know? And what do u think has a better chance of selling? 1 of 10 or 1 of 300?

Not sure im understanding what you are saying, are you saying indies are the only 3rd parties doing well on Switch?



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ArnoldRimmer on 26 January 2018
JSG87 said:

Or perhaps I got muddled up when typing what I was typing and misinformed you guys om this post but why would I like make it up on purpose? Lol.

Sorry, I guess "make up" was the wrong phrase, I did not want to imply you did it intentionally.



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caffeinade on 26 January 2018
Chazore said:
caffeinade said:

I don't know.

This year looks like it is going to be pretty good for the PC platform, and Vulkan.
We should have Serious Sam 4 out this year, hopefully that really show what the platform can do.
Isn't Bethesda's new game rumored to come out this year, the mod scene will love that.
We will be getting the definitive version of Monster Hunter: World. that will likely do very well on Twitch.
Book of the Dead, if it comes out will show indie devs that they can make beyond console AAA games, on a tight budget.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDsRfbfnC_A

The there is Valve:
http://schedule.gdconf.com/session/robocalypse-now-using-deep-learning-to-combat-cheating-in-counter-strike-global-offensive/855023
This sounds interesting.

Well we know Valve is going to GDC 2018, hopefully they bring a few surprises too.
Hopefully we can see more of their latest Knuckles prototype, (maybe even a release date) and we may even see another Source 2 tech demo.

We'll be seeing more games with full Vulkan support?.

I thought we had the Serious Sam VR game last year?, does this mean we're getting a brand new mainline SS game?.

Beth's game is rumoured, but I'm not sure about it releasing this year. I'm sure it's being developed with current gen base systems in mind, so I'm not expecting anything jaw dropping tbh. THe mod scene might love it, but going with what Beth has been doing with their "creation club", it'll likely be tied down to that. 

MHW's PC port is around 7-8 months away and it's the team's first ever PC port. I'm not holding out much hope for what little experience and time they've got with the port job. It could end up being a stellar amazing, mind blowing port job, or it could end up worse than  AK, but going by their short window and their first port job, I'm inclined to thinking it will be the latter.

Is BotD a puzzle walking sim?. If so I'm going to have to pass on it. Yes it's visuals look decent, but I'd hate to see them being wasted on yet another walking/puzzle sim.

 

Valve giving is a few big surprises?.

 

The knuckle controllers are the only things I'd be interested in seeing from them. I doubt they';; release the store revamp this year and announce new games, games that aren't another moba or card game/fan mod based.

SS4 was teased for 2017.
Croteam have been very supportive of Vulkan and VR.
The released The Talos Principle's Vulkan support as quickly as they physically could have.
Croteam's VR support has been very good so far, although they haven't really made anything specifically for VR yet.

I am not expecting anything mind blowing from Bethesda either.
Their fans will go crazy over it regardless.

Given AMD is apparently expecting 2018 to be big for AMD and Vulkan; and AMD has a partnership with Bethesda, who owns id Software...
Hopefully that means Bethesda's next title will have good - decent Vulkan support.

7-8 months is plenty of time for a port.
If a studio spent any longer on an advanced port, I would start to worry (probably around the one year mark, as I would assume console money was to blame).
As long as the Capcom employees don't drool on their keyboards we should, hopefully be fine.

My understanding of BotD is that the game is pretty much a tech demo with enough gameplay to technically be called a game.
It solves two major problems:
How do you get people to notice you tech demo?
How do you recoup the costs of creating said tech demo?

I never said a surprise had to be a new title, is E3 for stuff like that.
Valve has a long history of showing off some cool stuff like graphics research and stuff at GDC.
The Lab and the 2015 Source 2 VR Demo were both shown off at GDCs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3MnUQnUqw
http://www.valvesoftware.com/company/publications.html




RaptorChrist on 26 January 2018
Jranation said:
Flilix said:

Switch sales graph, according to 5% of the developers:

Cardboard  > Switch

That is so great :D



Intrinsic on 26 January 2018
zorg1000 said:
Intrinsic said:

This is one of those things where i can gaurantee you its not all as it seems.

indie ga,es are third party too you know? And what do u think has a better chance of selling? 1 of 10 or 1 of 300?

Not sure im understanding what you are saying, are you saying indies are the only 3rd parties doing well on Switch?

I am saying, if there is a third part game released on the NS and the PS4 and XB1, and said game is selling better on the NS than the PS4.... then i can pretty much bet my life on it that that game is an indie game. And its selling better on the switch mostly because there are fewer of them to choose from right now than on the PS4 or XB1.

Thats not in anyway saying indies are the only third parties doing well on the switch.