She had absolute no idea how strong Snoke was and she got mauled by him, and Kylo did not change, he manipulated Rey to achieve power, he manipulated Rey more so than Snoke, seriously dude do you even know what you were seing ? The entire Rey arc is she learnign how delusional she was and mustering the resolve to face Kylo the proper way. The first time she fought Kylo she didnt'realy knew what she was doing, the second time he manipulated her like a pupped, in the end she understands her place in the world. Ppl who say Luke didn't teach him anythign is insane, she was there with Luke, she saw how he was. Then she sees his sacrifice in the end and understands the torch is now her to bear but that she can't save everyone, sacrifices are necessary. What the hell ppl.

I think if people were honest with themselves, and this movie was called Space Battles, people would look at it as a poor imitation of SW, but with a boring, drawn out plot that really leads nowhere. Sure it's pretty, but so are some of Michael Bay's films. That doesn't make them good/great.  But, because it's SW, some just feel the need to not just love it, instead of just thinking it's OK, but also completely ignore the major plot holes and plot points that amounted to nothing. And label anyone bringing up its flaws just a hater or fanboy (though that's the opposite of a fanboy), and when asked to address them, they just don't/can't. 

Also, the whole taking risks thing. What risks? Maybe risking pissing off a lot of the fanbase by trolling them, having things set up to mean something just turn out to be nothing. But I never saw any actual risks taken that meant anything or feel like they have any major impact on the story/universe.  Some boring/dumb stuff happened and we left the situation exactly how we came into it. I feel like the guys at Redlettermedia put it best. This movie wasn't absolutely terrible, but at best it was only sporadically interesting. They didn't really set up much for the sequel, nor am I even interested in where it goes.

I'll be skipping the next one cause I fear we'll either get another poor Marvel movie wannabe. Or they'll try to fix so much from this one it'll become a muddled mess. 

She had absolute no idea how strong Snoke was and she got mauled by him, and Kylo did not change, he manipulated Rey to achieve power, he manipulated Rey more so than Snoke, seriously dude do you even know what you were seing ? The entire Rey arc is she learnign how delusional she was and mustering the resolve to face Kylo the proper way. The first time she fought Kylo she didnt'realy knew what she was doing, the second time he manipulated her like a pupped, in the end she understands her place in the world. Ppl who say Luke didn't teach him anythign is insane, she was there with Luke, she saw how he was. Then she sees his sacrifice in the end and understands the torch is now her to bear but that she can't save everyone, sacrifices are necessary. What the hell ppl.

I mean, if you got that out of the movie, even though it never implied any of it, thats fine. But don't expect other people to extrapolate these things when the movie doesn't say them. Luke gave her one "lesson" and then quit because she went "straight to the dark". 

I never got the implication Kylo manipulated her at all. He was doing crap on the fly, he never had that plan ahead of time from anything I gathered. If you did, fine, but the movie sure didn't imply that.

Your last sentence is pure conjecture with nothing in the film leading the viewer to believe that.

I mean, if you got that out of the movie, even though it never implied any of it, thats fine. But don't expect other people to extrapolate these things when the movie doesn't say them. Luke gave her one "lesson" and then quit because she went "straight to the dark". 

I never got the implication Kylo manipulated her at all. He was doing crap on the fly, he never had that plan ahead of time from anything I gathered. If you did, fine, but the movie sure didn't imply that.

Your last sentence is pure conjecture with nothing in the film leading the viewer to believe that.

I believe Luke actually gave Rey 2 lessons, not just one.

If the movie had been called "Space Battles" it would have been perfect as an obvious parody, which is what I thought I was watching for most of the movie.

I mean if you need the plot to have exposition every 3 seconds to take anything out of it then I guess youd consider this one bad. I guess Rey shouldve stop to tell us how she felt betrayed and manipulated by Kylo at the throne room and she should have shouted "OMG Snoke you are way more powerfull than I anticipated" when she was getting force ragdolled by him.

And then Kylo turned on him, just as she said he would.

Yeah, but I don't think it turned out the way Rey thought it would. Instead of coming back to the light, Kylo Ren fell further into the dark side of the force (at least that's how I saw it when I watched it). I think that's why Luke said "This is not going to go the way you think!"