The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

[DakonBlackblade]

epicurean said:

DakonBlackblade said:

She had absolute no idea how strong Snoke was and she got mauled by him, and Kylo did not change, he manipulated Rey to achieve power, he manipulated Rey more so than Snoke, seriously dude do you even know what you were seing ? The entire Rey arc is she learnign how delusional she was and mustering the resolve to face Kylo the proper way. The first time she fought Kylo she didnt'realy knew what she was doing, the second time he manipulated her like a pupped, in the end she understands her place in the world. Ppl who say Luke didn't teach him anythign is insane, she was there with Luke, she saw how he was. Then she sees his sacrifice in the end and understands the torch is now her to bear but that she can't save everyone, sacrifices are necessary. What the hell ppl.

I mean, if you got that out of the movie, even though it never implied any of it, thats fine. But don't expect other people to extrapolate these things when the movie doesn't say them. Luke gave her one "lesson" and then quit because she went "straight to the dark". 

I never got the implication Kylo manipulated her at all. He was doing crap on the fly, he never had that plan ahead of time from anything I gathered. If you did, fine, but the movie sure didn't imply that.

Your last sentence is pure conjecture with nothing in the film leading the viewer to believe that.

I mean if you need the plot to have exposition every 3 seconds to take anything out of it then I guess youd consider this one bad. I guess Rey shouldve stop to tell us how she felt betrayed and manipulated by Kylo at the throne room and she should have shouted "OMG Snoke you are way more powerfull than I anticipated" when she was getting force ragdolled by him.