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eva01beserk said:
Snoopy said:

Everyone on PS4 bought nothing but multiplatform games and only bought the PS4 because that is what their friends have. Just look at the top NPD games. Xbox one x probably sold over a million at 500 dollars. Not to mention when PS5 comes out, the xbox one x will be the cheapest way to play all the new games since PS5 is coming out in 2020 more than likely. Xbox one x will end up being a great console for budget gamers.

I dont really trust that it will keep selling after 9th gen comes, just remember that it will eventually will stop getting support and gamers will know that. and going by past gens, its like 2 years max.

What I do think will happen is that xbox fans will stick it out with the x longer until the next xbox releases if we go by the expectation that sony will release the ps5 first then xbox will later release the next xbox to be more powerful.

Doesn’t it even matter at this point, after Xbox one X successor, PS5 pro will be up next and so on. If MS will only rely on people who switch to the most powerful every couple years they will never have a permanent audience. 



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Playstation_awaiter said:
eva01beserk said:

I dont really trust that it will keep selling after 9th gen comes, just remember that it will eventually will stop getting support and gamers will know that. and going by past gens, its like 2 years max.

What I do think will happen is that xbox fans will stick it out with the x longer until the next xbox releases if we go by the expectation that sony will release the ps5 first then xbox will later release the next xbox to be more powerful.

Doesn’t it even matter at this point, after Xbox one X successor, PS5 pro will be up next and so on. If MS will only rely on people who switch to the most powerful every couple years they will never have a permanent audience. 

They also relying on having the cheaper console that still runs the newer games.



Snoopy said:
Aura7541 said:

Jaguar will eventually need to be ditched, so...

Yeah, the cpu we are going to get next generation isn't going be something crazy good either. They can't just spend the money upgrading the cpu all the way. They have to also upgrade the gpu, ram, storage (games are getting MUCH bigger),ect while making sure the console is affordable.

Ryzen is already eons better than Jaguar. By the time the PS5 comes out, it'll likely be using Ryzen 2 which will be even better. The PS5 will either be using a modified Raven Ridge or Gray Hawk APU. Plans for next-gen consoles are done 2-3 years before they are released, so Sony likely already has a plan now.

Anyways, Jaguar will eventually have to be left behind due to its outdatedness. Developers will eventually want to have the base platform much more powerful to achieve their games' visions.



Snoopy said:
LivingMetal said:

A common misconception of the non - gamer.  Looking at the top NPD games to determine your purchasing decisions is sheepish at best. I don't look at the top NPD games. I look into the games I want to play regardless of how potentially great or not great they might sell. Of the 40 PS4 games I have, 25 of those are Playstation console exclusive. And if you were going to rely on a narrow group of titles in only one territory, then you are cherry picking at best willfully ignorant and in denial. It's very obvious that Nintendo has stayed in the hardware console business because of their exclusives. It's pretty obvious that the PlayStation continues to do so well due to a great mix off first and third party games. And it's very obvious that Microsoft has not been able to win a console war is because they don't have the gaming vision that both Nintendo and Sony have. I don't need NPD to tell me that Zero Time Dilemma, Hatsune Miku, inFamous, Ultra Despair Girls, Atelier series, Megadimension Neptunia, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Killzone, The Silver Case, Etc. are great games in my collection. But apparently you do. And there is so much more wrong with the rest of your post but I don't think you'll ever get it.

Congratulations, you are one of the few who buy more exclusives than multiplatform games. Most people aren't that way and I don't judge quality by sales myself. I make my decision based on genre first than check and see if the game is good by looking at youtube videos and reviews. I bought games like cuphead, horizon, nioh, pubg, halo wars 2 and more. However, I personally prefer multiplatform games a lot more. COD, Assassins creed, shadow of modor, resident evil 7, ghost recon, madden , evil within 2, south park and more. To me third party titles are better in both quality and quantity.  I only use sales to show what most people buy and they are not exclusives.

There has been a clear correlation between the successfulness of gaming consoles by the success of the quality games that are associated with that console namely the exclusives. Microsoft doesn't have that success nowhere near as both Nintendo and Sony. And your logic is still flawed because you have to use a little Common Sense here. The hardcore gamer does not often follow the masses for their gaming decisions. You need to comprehend that third party Developers continue to support the PlayStation 4 with their exclusives because it's not about selling that one title that moves 5 million units. It's about gamers buying a plethora off games weather it cells 500000 units or 5 million units. It's fine that third party games appeal more to you. But you can still be a fan of third-party games but still love Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Ratchet & Clank, Gran Turismo, Mario Kart, Uncharted, infamous, Mario Kart, Etc. And where can you find those titles not on a Microsoft console? Go figure.



Snoopy said:
Playstation_awaiter said:

Doesn’t it even matter at this point, after Xbox one X successor, PS5 pro will be up next and so on. If MS will only rely on people who switch to the most powerful every couple years they will never have a permanent audience. 

They also relying on having the cheaper console that still runs the newer games.

But if you can justify the current higher cost Xbox One X, then you can justify the future higher-cost PlayStation console when it runs newer games better than the Xbox One X.



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Snoopy said:
LivingMetal said:

Yep. The console for the masses. Wait a minute. The Switch and PS4 are both out selling the Xbox One in general. Xbox 1X did not succeed on that front. Failure.

Everyone on PS4 bought nothing but multiplatform games and only bought the PS4 because that is what their friends have. Just look at the top NPD games. Xbox one x probably sold over a million at 500 dollars. Not to mention when PS5 comes out, the xbox one x will be the cheapest way to play all the new games since PS5 is coming out in 2020 more than likely. Xbox one x will end up being a great console for budget gamers.

I am not sure. You mean X will be 1080P and PS4P as 720-900P console in 3yrs time ?

I think when next gen comes there will be only few games that will still support it and moreover in 3yrs or so 4K user might become mainstream so very likely people will want a 4K console



 

LivingMetal said:
Snoopy said:

They also relying on having the cheaper console that still runs the newer games.

But if you can justify the current higher cost Xbox One X, then you can justify the future higher-cost PlayStation console when it runs newer games better than the Xbox One X.

Microsoft will also have the more powerful xbox at the same time. Cheap ones for the casuals and an expensive but powerful one for the hardcore. All Microsoft needs to do is go back to their roots with third party marketing and deals.



exclusive_console said:
Snoopy said:

Everyone on PS4 bought nothing but multiplatform games and only bought the PS4 because that is what their friends have. Just look at the top NPD games. Xbox one x probably sold over a million at 500 dollars. Not to mention when PS5 comes out, the xbox one x will be the cheapest way to play all the new games since PS5 is coming out in 2020 more than likely. Xbox one x will end up being a great console for budget gamers.

I am not sure. You mean X will be 1080P and PS4P as 720-900P console in 3yrs time ?

I think when next gen comes there will be only few games that will still support it and moreover in 3yrs or so 4K user might become mainstream so very likely people will want a 4K console

This generation it took a while before we stopped supporting 360/ps3 games. The gap in power between xbox one x and ps5 will be about 3 years. Hell, they are supporting the switch right now with way weaker hardware. We already have 4k games with xbox one x. They will just downgrade the textures, lighting, ect to keep it at 4k for xbox one x. 4k is already pretty much confirmed main stream since it is being adopted at a faster rate than 1080p tvs. Hell, you can get a decent 4k tv for 500 dollars.

Last edited by Snoopy - on 31 December 2017

It's been out for like a month and people are already saying it's failed or succeeded lol.



Snoopy said:
LivingMetal said:

But if you can justify the current higher cost Xbox One X, then you can justify the future higher-cost PlayStation console when it runs newer games better than the Xbox One X.

Microsoft will also have the more powerful xbox at the same time. Cheap ones for the casuals and an expensive but powerful one for the hardcore. All Microsoft needs to do is go back to their roots with third party marketing and deals.

Maybe MS doesnt bring a new console no more, they arent successfull in any way, sales are very bad under the year, almost zero exclusives. And if they bring a new console it wont be at the same time like the ps5 because they just released a new console lol.