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Nem said: 
Errorist76 said: 

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I thought you wanted the reason, not to debate it. Even on those links you can see it. Germanic languages just have too many R sounds. G's that are pronounced R's aswell as others.

Sure you can make a good melody, but the pool of combinations that work is much smaller than the english language, for example that doesn't use pronounced R sounds so much. Especially for people who don't talk the language the R sounds are very pronounced and don't make for good melodies. It's actually painful to listen to. I can for example point your second link of the first band as an example. 

You can argue that if you want. But you asked and i told you why. This is somewhat common knowledge. Actually a dutch person was the one that pointed this out to me first. Germanic languages just aren't very rich for singing.

As they say, you can't make a (sturdy) house without bricks. It sucks, but it is what it is.

 

I'm not debating it, I'm just against stupid generalisations. I'm just showing you several examples where it is obvious that the whole R thing is overblown because everybody thinks we talk like in those Hitler videos. There are actually many artists who can even make German sound pleasing enough. It is all a matter of pronunciation, that's why people generally like the British English more than American English. And French better than both.


Of course the English language in a musical sense is better sounding and much easier to the ears than German, that indeed is common knowledge. Dutch is much harsher than German though. I still believe there are some dutch songs I'd like, if you guys know any please show me some.

I also love Portuguese since my school exchange there...Spanish only from South-America, sorry and Italian more for comical reasons, even though I had it in school.

I also think Russian and Polish are incredibly hard languages, but I know some great songs in those languages. You get my point.

But yeah, I guess the biggest reason for less popularity of all of this music, is simple lack of understanding their lyrics.

Last edited by Errorist76 - on 15 December 2017

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Nem said:

I thought you wanted the reason, not to debate it. Even on those links you can see it. Germanic languages just have too many R sounds. G's that are pronounced R's aswell as others.

Germanic languages like, let's say, English? Yeah, sure...

HomokHarcos said:
captain carot said:

As for movies, the Nazis basically killed the great german film industry we had in the twenties and thirties. It never really recovered. There are some famous directors and actors though, but usually they go to the US if they get enough fame. Just look at Roland Emmerich, Wolfgang Petersen and the likes.

Germany did have a major film industry during the 1920's. Heck on Watchmojo's Top 10 Films of the 1920's numbers 1 and 2 were German (Metropolis and Nosferatu).

That is what i wrote. German film funding does much for international productions that do at least parts of their filming in Germany. Original german movies usually have way smaller funding than french or british productions have. Run Lola run for example was actually funded by german TV, at least partially.

At the same time we have problems keeping good actors and directors. There are also some actors few recon as being german, like Diane Kruger.



captain carot said:
Nem said:

I thought you wanted the reason, not to debate it. Even on those links you can see it. Germanic languages just have too many R sounds. G's that are pronounced R's aswell as others.

Germanic languages like, let's say, English? Yeah, sure...


English is germanic? Then i apologise for the mistake.

I mean languages like german and dutch that are used in central/eastern europe and have a proliferation of pronounced R sounds.

Hopefully that's a better definition for you. :p Last edited by Nem - on 15 December 2017

Nem said:
captain carot said:

Germanic languages like, let's say, English? Yeah, sure...


English is germanic? Then i apologise for the mistake.

I mean languages like german and dutch that are used in central/eastern europe and have a proliferation of pronounced R sounds.

Hopefully that's a better definition for you. :p

Aren't romanic languages like Spanish and Italian known for pronounced R sounds as well?! :D



What's pop in Germany anyway? They don't have Hollywood's, Silicon Valleys and a games/animes industries like Japan as far as I know.



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In 2016, German music market is close to UK's, I'm surrised to see it's bigger than French music.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_music_industry_market_share_data#IFPI_2016_data



For the same reason why you could ask this question about Italian, French, Spanish or any western countries popular culture. Everyone in the world speaks english and therefor absorbs primarily American culture which is the biggest economy in the world. The only countries who can export their culture are the ones that are the least americanized countries like Japan, China and Korea. 



outlawauron said:
Because German is an ugly language

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Errorist76 said:
Nem said:

English is germanic? Then i apologise for the mistake.

I mean languages like german and dutch that are used in central/eastern europe and have a proliferation of pronounced R sounds.

Hopefully that's a better definition for you. :p

Aren't romanic languages like Spanish and Italian known for pronounced R sounds as well?! :D

Not really. They have soft R's. 



Phronesis said:

What's pop in Germany anyway? They don't have Hollywood's, Silicon Valleys and a games/animes industries like Japan as far as I know.

Just because our tech industry isn't centralised doesn't mean we have none. Potsdam's Babelsberg film studios serve more and more as an extension for bigger Hollywood productions. Stuff like The Bourne Conspiracy, Cloud Atlas, Speed Racer, Operation Valkyrie, V for Vendetta, The Pianist, Aeon Flux, Inglorious Basterds, Gran Budapest Hotel,  have been at least partly filmed and/or produced there. They are the largest studio complex in Europe atm.

Their biggest studio there (Studio 20) is the biggest studio in the world (7355 sqm, twice as big as Hollywood's biggest studio with only 3900sqm).

It's supposedly cheaper to use them than to go to established studios in L.A. so the studio is getting bigger and bigger.

On the post-pro side Darmstadt based Pixomondo is doing CGI for big international projects like Game of Thrones or Spiderman, for example.