SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:
Eeeeeeeeer don't just make it a chicken or egg situation. Nintendo abandoned the support for N64, GC and mainly Wii before it was discontinued or out of demand. They abandoned to start developing for the new system and that helped the sales plummet, very simple concept. Sony and Nintendo have different choices on how to support their console.
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Demand for hardware dropped below a sustainable threshold for new software development. That is consistent with all companies including Sony.
Nintendo did not drop software support for N64, GC or Wii prior to the sustainable threshold point. Sony consoles simply have a longer term demand that pushes the sustainable point longer. That's also the main benefit of 3rd party support. Sony doesn't need to pour all resources into the console late in the cycle meaning the sustainability point itself is also lower.
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They don't need, still they release TLOU and GT6 at the very end of the PS3 life and start of PS4. That isn't what Nintendo usually do with their major IPs.
Wii major ips got dropped before the yearly sales were even below what would probably be the peaks of GC. And considering games would have between 2-3 years of dev time, if they aren't releasing games after the 4th year of the console, then they shifted the dev to the next console while still on the middle of the current gen.
What is the issue with accepting this reality?
zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:
So it was a point for the sake of a point?
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You know people are allowed to reply to just part of your post.
It seemed you were implying that 3DS had an abnormal sales curve and i was pointing out that none of their handhelds follow that same sales curve their console seem to follow.
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Understood. Still that was made as a counter to people that expect very stepy front sales, late peak and long tail all at once for Switch, while the story shows Nintendo consoles are more front loaded than Sony.
ArnoldRimmer said:
DonFerrari said:
The sales will go down after the Holiday season because no other month sells as good as holiday anyway.
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Well, yes, obviously. But that's not what I meant - I believe that Switch sales will not only go down because the holiday season is over, but also because the typical first-party-system-sellers have already been released in 2017. There won't be a new Super Mario, Mario Kart or Zelda in 2018.
DonFerrari said:
So all games that make you want to own a Switch were released, so have you bought them all? No love for Pokemon, SSB, MK and other big games?
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I played BotW on the WiiU, no reason to play it on the Switch again. The new Super Mario is currently the only Switch game I'm very very interested in, but I just don't want to buy a console for one game. And unfortunately I'm really not interested in Pokemon, SSB, MK etc., and with no other must-have-titles being announced that I am aware of, I don't see myself buying a Switch anytime soon.
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So you mean the sales on 2018 before the holidays will be lower than 2017? That is possible.
If you are a Nintendo fan you don't seem like one that really like their games. Even I that don't follow or play much of Nintendo have interest on those games.
eastcoastrider said:
He is off his rocker if he thinks Switch will overtake PS4 sales. Were about 1/2 way through this gen cycle and as the PS4's library grows and grows and Sony is able to drop the price of its consoles and create more cost efficient versions like the slim it only adds to the value and attractiveness to consumers. I think Nintendo will have a really good selling product with the switch but there are some heavy limitations, 2 million VR sets alone have been sold and the price drastically reduced will see this product (PS4) selling very well for the years ahead. I would as a guess give final totals of the Switch around 50 million units and the PS4 around 90 million
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Besides world destruction, it's basically impossible PS4 won't reach 100M.