In Zhuge's tweet, he later mentions some PS4 statistics (some games selling over 100k units). From what I understand, Switch should be doing similar to PS4 there.
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zorg1000 said:
Thanks for the numbers but how exactly does that make PS2 ahead of Wii launches aligned? |
I said it in a post a long time ago to you I believe, and its hard to find all the sources again. For markets like SK, Taiwan, India, Brazil and other big secondary markets that since the PS2 launched so late, those sales add to it like its in its first year launch aligned. Which also makes the comparison between PS2/Wii vs PS4 that much worse.
For example you see the sales right there.
~4 years PS2 in SK= 1.27m
~4 years Wii in SK= 500k
This is going to be really complicated to say and I am really confusing myself but hopefully it comes out right: However they are not launch aligned in comparisons. If people compare do 1.5 year shipment comparisons in those charts that they do, it isn't truly launch aligned because it includes SK Wii sales but not SK PS2 sales. If people do 2 year comparisons it includes >.5 year of Wii and only a few weeks of PS2 sales in SK and etc.
Another more clear example Wii launched 1st day in Brazil and PS2 launched after the Wii in 2009. So any shipment data comparisons has Wii Brazil data and not PS2 Brazil data until freaking year 9.
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Farsala said:
I said it in a post a long time ago to you I believe, and its hard to find all the sources again. For markets like SK, Taiwan, India, Brazil and other big secondary markets that since the PS2 launched so late, those sales add to it like its in its first year launch aligned. Which also makes the comparison between PS2/Wii vs PS4 that much worse. For example you see the sales right there. ~4 years PS2 in SK= 1.27m ~4 years Wii in SK= 500k This is going to be really complicated to say and I am really confusing myself but hopefully it comes out right: However they are not launch aligned in comparisons. If people compare do 1.5 year shipment comparisons in those charts that they do, it isn't truly launch aligned because it includes SK Wii sales but not SK PS2 sales. If people do 2 year comparisons it includes >.5 year of Wii and only a few weeks of PS2 sales in SK and etc. Another more clear example Wii launched 1st day in Brazil and PS2 launched after the Wii in 2009. So any shipment data comparisons has Wii Brazil data and not PS2 Brazil data until freaking year 9. |
I get what you are saying but do we know that these smaller late releasing nations push it over Wii in the first few years?
For example PS2 sold 1.27m in 4 years in SK so thats only a few 100k per year. Even if you add all of these nations that can only be like 2m per year at best right?
I dont recall how much of a lead Wii had over PS2 in the early years so i honestly have no idea if they do push PS2 ahead or not.
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Well if PS2 sold 1.2m lifetime, 30,000 is great for one day sales
zorg1000 said:
I get what you are saying but do we know that these smaller late releasing nations push it over Wii in the first few years? For example PS2 sold 1.27m in 4 years in SK so thats only a few 100k per year. Even if you add all of these nations that can only be like 2m per year at best right? I dont recall how much of a lead Wii had over PS2 in the early years so i honestly have no idea if they do push PS2 ahead or not. |
It definitely isn't clear, but their were numerous late launches for the PS2 compared to the Wii. I often attribute the "legs" of the older consoles to simply launching late, while we can clearly see with newer consoles like the PS3, 360, Wii U, PS4 etc. that they don't have strong legs but much stronger early years due to launching in these countries early.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_launch
Has all countries launching within about 2 years except the minor market of HK. No launch in India? No China?
PS
India- 3 years after, 900k
Currently Online History of PlayStation hardware sales in India.
PS4 > 100k
PS3 LTD sales is 350k, PSP is 500k and PS2 is 900k
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) September 13, 2016
SK- 2 years after, see above
Taiwan and HK and some China- 4 years after
Brazil- 9 years after
Other south american countries?
Last edited by Farsala - on 12 December 2017
Farsala said:
It definitely isn't clear, but their were numerous late launches for the PS2 compared to the Wii. I often attribute the "legs" of the older consoles to simply launching late, while we can clearly see with newer consoles like the PS3, 360, Wii U, PS4 etc. that they don't have strong legs but much stronger early years due to launching in these countries early. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_launch Has all countries launching within about 2 years except the minor market of HK. No launch in India? No China? PS India- 3 years after, 900k https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/775638080405565440, thus ~>0-900k alone should be added to launch comparisons. SK- 2 years after, see above Taiwan and HK and some China- 4 years after Brazil- 9 years after Other south american countries?
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Looks like you could be right, should be close regardless.
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Are you thinking of Exxon?
so this numbers will be in the Japan region of the chart??
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