Besides the fact that San Andreas is a different game than GTA3 and that the franchise name grow with time, you can go for most franchises that have yearly outputs and look at the spike in sales.

I dare you find any evidence of big spikes that most would qualify as system sellers for Fifa and CoD yearly releases. Go there, pick the baseline for the month. And don't try to BS your way mixing the spike that the holiday themselves bring with the spike caused by CoD.

You can consider every single game as a system seller if you want, because there is always someone that is buying the console that week and buying that game that just released and could even be the reason that person bought it.

But when you want to compare with Zelda selling over 100% attach ratio on the release window of the console, don't come with something like a 100-500k bump on sales for a 70M console and claim the same relevance as system seller.

I haven't seem him ignoring this. I see him doing an analysis, that you may find bad or good, of why he think the system is selling based on Nintendo fanbase and that it will see a drop next year. Also see he putting that the main system sellers are out and there isn't a big schedule for next year and that he think a drought is coming without much 3rd party titles so the baseline will suffer, etc.

Others are just "Nintendo have over 50 big IPs that are system sellers and will make Switch soar the skies", most of those weren't able to make GC or WiiU sell.

Man, every game push some console. And perhaps first Fifa ALONE brought some 200-500k users to the system, but no way in hell the sequels are bringing similar amount. Some games sell more system on their sequels than the first game, usually when the first didn't had much hype or when the sequel is the one hyped because of the cliffhangers.

I think shadow basically showed that almost no game alone push much sales and thus far very few would really be considered system sellers.

Well and also Switch besides being more fresh, is coming from months of out of stock pent up demand...

Before this year the price drops (temporal) for sony were all 50 USD and became permanent little after. And we also have to consider that even thought MSRP dropped 100 USD for this BF, most of the year you could find some deals for 250 made by the stores.

Also I think they may do some flash sales for 199 closer to Xmas and by March have it as official price.

Agree.

Me and alot of others on the November prediction were putting that PS4 and X1 having good deals, X1X launching (and MS usually having great November and BF) and Switch being fully available (with Nintendo also having strong holiday growth) made it possible to all be the winner and the positioning of the ranks being more like "I think this is the most probable outcome X>Y>Z, but it could be any other combination".

Holy crap.  We both need to look at that graph closer.  Lol.  Shadow needs to change the title on that thing, as it says Top 20.

So with the 10m Nintendo figure we can say Switch sold roughly 2m in November globally... according to VGC 37.6% of Switch's are sold in the US.

So with the same ratio 770k in the US would mean.... 2.047m globally.

770k NPD CONFIRMED!?!??!?!? xD

At least it seems it's not miles out anyway.

I got the ratios wrong, but we still broke 3M, folks!

Yeah, sales sites were much better back then, i miss those those days.

It's still fun , i don't mean is not, but idk why, i doesn't feel the same... 2014-2015 were gold days.

@OP

10,000,000 Switch sold as for December 12th uh?

With still 3 weeks left, Switch should easy sell at least another 2.5-3 million units, so at the end of 2017 we should see 12.5-13 million, maybe 13.5 million, and shipments should be something 500-1m over that, so like 13.5-14.5 million shipped.

I'm ok with this, my 15m shipments prediction maybe was a bit too much, but back in January was probabily the closet prediction ever.

It'll be for slightly before the announcement date, someone said December 10th. Somewhere around 8th-10th anyway.

12.5-13m for end of the year sounds about right yeah.

In January 2017, after the conference, most people were super pessimist, way more than in Nov/Dec 2016.

Predicting 15m shipped (not sold btw) was very absurd for 90% of people.

If final shipments are 13.5-14.5 million for the year, my prediction will be very good.

I've been predicting 14 million since the Switch released. I don't remember what I put for right after the conference, though, so you win :)

EDIT: Nevermind, I predicted 10 million before the launch, and then 14 after, so you were spot on WAY before I got around to it :)

yo. Stop putting words in my mouth.

You all keep claiming I said things that I did not say.

Switch over 900k confirmed!?!?!?