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quickrick said:
tbone51 said:

He isnt being delusional. He is talking WW sold in Dec. Its possible but we wont know because we dont get all the numbers. That said he is right about you flipping your story. Now your saying switch might outsell ps4 dec (US) but before you werent even considering it a possibility

We get shipments numbers for oct, nov, and December. there is no WAY to just get shipments for december only. as far as i know we don't have official december npd, so i can change my prediction accordingly. I still think ps4 will come out on top.

Lol. You would change your prediction AFTER NPD numbers? That would be the worlds' easiest prediction, something even you would be capable of!



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Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

I was just pointing out a factor in the discussion that certain users often conveniently leave out when comparing the two. 

Well you could also mentioned fact that PS4 was easily strongest console on market on which games best performed, or that had 500GB HDD compared to Switch 32GB internal memory, but offcourse you didnt.

You could also argue that ps4 had to share most of its games with a combination of xb1, 360, ps3, and pc and sometimes all of them. 

 

Bigger hardrive but you could fill up that 500gb with 6 games if you had certain titles. You also had to pay 100 more for ps4 then a switch. And on top of that it wasn't portable which is the switches biggest selling point. 

 

PS4 sales are better and more impressive. And the beauty of it is we are here in year 5 now and it's sales have gone into overdrive showing no signs of slowing over the next 2 years. I doubt switch will have such legs. 



peachbuggy said:
quickrick said:

lmao, ok. talk about being delusional.

At least i know the definition of "falling off a cliff" lol. Nintendo will win Japan massively, NA fairly comfortably and lose Eur/others but will be competitive there, so i think it will be close WW.

LOL you think it will win NA comfortably, based on what?  november it was outsold 2:1, now all of sudden, its gonna win december by a huge margin, if in some way wins december, i can assure it will be by a very small margin, it will get destroyed in europe, and in japan it will win by 600-700k?  anyway there is now way to get shipments numbers for only december, it will be the whole quarter, and ps4 will it out ship switch by atleast 2-3 million. 



Predictions thread is up. Make your prediction!

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=233818

There's mine:

Switch - 1.5 million
PS4 - 1.4 million
XB1 - 1.25 million



quickrick said:
tbone51 said:

He isnt being delusional. He is talking WW sold in Dec. Its possible but we wont know because we dont get all the numbers. That said he is right about you flipping your story. Now your saying switch might outsell ps4 dec (US) but before you werent even considering it a possibility

We get shipments numbers for oct, nov, and December. there is no WAY to just get shipments for december only. as far as i know we don't have official december npd, so i can change my prediction accordingly. I still think ps4 will come out on top.

Yeap you can change your prediction accordingly, so when switch doesnt fall off a cliff next year and is up i cant wait for your "but ps4 is winning WW" post and not admit you were wrong in 2017.

 

Also what does the quarter have to do with the previous arguement. We were discussing Dec only but alrighty then



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Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

Well you could also mentioned fact that PS4 was easily strongest console on market on which games best performed, or that had 500GB HDD compared to Switch 32GB internal memory, but offcourse you didnt.

You could also argue that ps4 had to share most of its games with a combination of xb1, 360, ps3, and pc and sometimes all of them. 

Bigger hardrive but you could fill up that 500gb with 6 games if you had certain titles. You also had to pay 100 more for ps4 then a switch. And on top of that it wasn't portable which is the switches biggest selling point. 

PS4 sales are better and more impressive. And the beauty of it is we are here in year 5 now and it's sales have gone into overdrive showing no signs of slowing over the next 2 years. I doubt switch will have such legs. 

Well you could also arguing that PS4 has easily strongest 3rd party support and thats 3rd party support is most important for PS4, and that all those multiplatform games are working and look best on PS4 from all consoles.

500 HDD is definitely more expensive than 32GB memory in Switch, and definitely it can fit more big digital games on PS4 than it can on Switch.

Comparing PS4 peak year in 4 years with launch Switch year where Switch had huge stock problem most of time doesnt make any sense. But it we talk about first year sales, Switch sales are on pair with PS4 sales for first 9 months on market, and actually now with holiday season Switch will not easily have better sales for first 10 months on market than PS4 had, and fact that Switch had huge stock problems most of the time and fact that Switch comes after failed console makes Switch sales more impresive for now than it is for PS4 in 1st year.



CosmicSex said:
tbone51 said:

He isnt being delusional. He is talking WW sold in Dec. Its possible but we wont know because we dont get all the numbers. That said he is right about you flipping your story. Now your saying switch might outsell ps4 dec (US) but before you werent even considering it a possibility

It is highly delusional to think think that the PS4 wont win world wide in December.   Because we know about Europe's existence. We don't have enough data to figure out the US yet.  Anyone who was paying attention last month knows that online sales are heavily skewed for Switch.  So much so, the PS4 could outsell it two to one and we would ever know.  

But worldwide you really need to do some explaining to somehow overcome everything we already know about the select regions.

We know that Switch will win japan by a few hundred thousand.   We know Europe will favor PS4 with a much higher margin than Japan will favor Switch (like at least a million).   Whatever the difference is can't be made up for in the US.  

A couple hundred thousand? Isnt switch up over ps4 in dec by 350k+ now without Christmas week and final week? 

 

As for Europe nintendo pulla through much better in dec, ps4 wont blow it out by as much as you think imo. That said that means there is a chance. Its not delusional whatsoever



tbone51 said:
quickrick said:

We get shipments numbers for oct, nov, and December. there is no WAY to just get shipments for december only. as far as i know we don't have official december npd, so i can change my prediction accordingly. I still think ps4 will come out on top.

Yeap you can change your prediction accordingly, so when switch doesnt fall off a cliff next year and is up i cant wait for your "but ps4 is winning WW" post and not admit you were wrong in 2017.

 

Also what does the quarter have to do with the previous arguement. We were discussing Dec only but alrighty then

ERR you can't really get official december shipments WW is that hard to understand, YOU will only get shipments for the holiday quarter.   



tbone51 said:

Yeap you can change your prediction accordingly, so when switch doesnt fall off a cliff next year and is up i cant wait for your "but ps4 is winning WW" post and not admit you were wrong in 2017.

He won't.

Simple because Switch will sell more than PS4 worldwide in 2018.



quickrick said:
tbone51 said:

Yeap you can change your prediction accordingly, so when switch doesnt fall off a cliff next year and is up i cant wait for your "but ps4 is winning WW" post and not admit you were wrong in 2017.

 

Also what does the quarter have to do with the previous arguement. We were discussing Dec only but alrighty then

ERR you can't really get official december shipments WW is that hard to understand, YOU will only get shipments for the holiday quarter.   

I never said we did. But the original arguement was for just Dec (whether we cannot or can get numbers) and you nintendo switched to quarter instead of the month