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Miyamotoo on 30 November 2017
Jranation said:
Miyamotoo said:
Damn Kerotan, take a break, this last Japan sales numbers really set you on fire. :D

That's what happenes when Switch cannibalize PS4 sales in Japan xD 

And what's even more interesting is that in next Japan sales thread someone again will say "Switch cannibalize PS4 sales in Japan" and Kerotan will again freak out. :D



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Kerotan on 30 November 2017
Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

Glad you have retracted that now. So no more"switch is cannibalizing the ps4" on the weekly charts. Mission complete. 

Switch like other consoles before it obviously takes sales the ps4 might otherwise get. The same way japanese gamers choose the ps4 over the switch and others. 

The point is however switch isn't the reason ps4 is down in Q4 2017. The reason is due to the launch of the slim, the pro, price cut and FFXV. Ps4 q4 2017 was never going to compete. 

I've said that point to you at least 10 times now but you refuse to address it directly.  Instead you apply some top spin Roger Feferer would be proud. This tbread is about that. 

Cannibalizing is definitely bad wording, but this my post is very clear in any case. Like I wrote to you already, I will not comment rest of your post because I gave you already clear answers and points that from some reasons you fail to see.

And for record, this thread is actually about you. ;)

Laughably you never once addressed this point. You haven't even mentioned the terms "ps4 slim" "pricecut" "ps4 pro" or "ffxv". 

 

You saying you won't comment is basically admitting you can't counter my point. You don't have it in you to admit you are wrong. 

 

This thread is about this point so it's probably for the best you go elsewhere with your derailment and goal post moving tactics.



Miyamotoo on 30 November 2017
Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

Cannibalizing is definitely bad wording, but this my post is very clear in any case. Like I wrote to you already, I will not comment rest of your post because I gave you already clear answers and points that from some reasons you fail to see.

And for record, this thread is actually about you. ;)

Laughably you never once addressed this point. You haven't even mentioned the terms "ps4 slim" "pricecut" "ps4 pro" or "ffxv". 

You saying you won't comment is basically admitting you can't counter my point. You don't have it in you to admit you are wrong. 

This thread is about this point so it's probably for the best you go elsewhere with your derailment and goal post moving tactics.

But that's point, you basically failed to see my answer. So if that is case why you needed to send PM to me!? Why you still sending PMs to me!? Why you needed to open two threads just to proves your point!? You need to chill.

When you start opening threads so easily you could open one about how "amazing" PS4 sales are in Japan. :D



Wyrdness on 30 November 2017

The two are certainly competing though.



Bofferbrauer2 on 30 November 2017

The Switch may be stealing some short-term sales due to some persons having to make a choice which one they want first - but at the same time the reverse is also true. In the long run however, these sales are not truly lost and thus don't really affect the total sales of any console since it's just a question of when, not if. Before, this was basically a non-issue for the PS4 (it was actually more the other way around, since many couldn't get a Switch) due to the heavy stock problems of the Switch but now that the shipments got greatly expanded it starts coming into play.

The Switch stealing long-term sales (those which do affect the total sales) is also possible, especially for persons who can only afford one console per gen. But I don't think these are legion, so their effect on the total sales of both platforms should be pretty small overall.

The PS4s problem in Japan is a different one: While it has lots and lots of games, it's severely lacking in big hits, with most titles not cracking the 100k mark in Japan. While the PS4 finally managed to get a million seller in Japan with DQ XI, the Switch followed through just weeks after with Splatoon 2 and just recently even overtook the PS4 version of DQ XI in Japan, With Odyssey and possibly even BotW passing the million mark in a not so distant future. It's pretty visible on the sales front, too: Switch titles just keep selling while the PS4 titles drop off almost instantly; if the console wouldn't get a big load of new titles every week there wouldn't be many games of the PS4 on the sales charts since the grand majority of them are dropping out after just one or two weeks.



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konnichiwa on 30 November 2017
irstupid said:

Cannibalize is the wrong word yes, but anyone thinking that the Switch and the PS4 are not stealing sales from one another is just being delusional.

There are people out there in the world, or in this case Japan, that are choosing between the two. If both didn't exist, they would get the one that did. But since they both exist, some people are choosing one or the other.

Indeed oh well.






Kerotan on 30 November 2017
Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

Laughably you never once addressed this point. You haven't even mentioned the terms "ps4 slim" "pricecut" "ps4 pro" or "ffxv". 

You saying you won't comment is basically admitting you can't counter my point. You don't have it in you to admit you are wrong. 

This thread is about this point so it's probably for the best you go elsewhere with your derailment and goal post moving tactics.

But that's point, you basically failed to see my answer. So if that is case why you needed to send PM to me!? Why you still sending PMs to me!? Why you needed to open two threads just to proves your point!? You need to chill.

When you start opening threads so easily you could open one about how "amazing" PS4 sales are in Japan. :D

You have not once mentioned the ps4 pro, the slim, the price cut or FFXV in any reply. That's my point. At this stagw i have to ask the question? Is this a big eind up? Are you evwn being serious at all. Either address those factors or stop spamming my thread with replies avoiding the issue. 



Miyamotoo on 30 November 2017
Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

But that's point, you basically failed to see my answer. So if that is case why you needed to send PM to me!? Why you still sending PMs to me!? Why you needed to open two threads just to proves your point!? You need to chill.

When you start opening threads so easily you could open one about how "amazing" PS4 sales are in Japan. :D

You have not once mentioned the ps4 pro, the slim, the price cut or FFXV in any reply. That's my point. At this stagw i have to ask the question? Is this a big eind up? Are you evwn being serious at all. Either address those factors or stop spamming my thread with replies avoiding the issue. 

Damn, you really need to chill.



Kerotan on 30 November 2017
Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

You have not once mentioned the ps4 pro, the slim, the price cut or FFXV in any reply. That's my point. At this stagw i have to ask the question? Is this a big eind up? Are you evwn being serious at all. Either address those factors or stop spamming my thread with replies avoiding the issue. 

Damn, you really need to chill.

Great contribution as usual. I think it's time you moved on. 



Gamer147 on 30 November 2017

The PS 4 is selling awesome. It’s an excellent system.