Yeah but what had these games all in common? They were 1080p on the original Xbox One so why shouldnt they perform mostly 4K on the Xbox One X? But most AAA games only hit 900p on the Xbox One. MS clearly lied and deceived the media, especially with their Forza 6 showcase where they claimed that the hardware had still 35% left despite hitting 4K. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=227461&page=1

I feel the same way.

It is what it is. Biased attacks over what a company does and blindly ignoring another's mistakes is fanboyism, which goes against the rules and common decency

You're the mod. You're free to disagree with what I said. Really nothing else I can say besides that. 

Of course it's relevant. I used a mild 'insult' and you criticized my choice of words. If you prefer not to use anything that sounds offensive (as in the opposite of defensive, not rude) and disrespectful, then I'll respect that. People make their own rules and I'll follow what they ask for. While I should've put more thought into it, I still clarified my statement which wasn't meant to target anyone.

You have a fair point. Never disagreed with it, and I myself commonly say i dislike it when I use insults like that.

I never ignored your words - heck, I typically live by it as well. This thread is bound to die soon, but in future threads i'll avoid this mistake

Is that so? Pls, elaborate...

Technically its wrong no matter what angle. The one reason why PS3 wasnt as successful as Sony hoped was the launch price, resp. the need to push a new expensive, physical medium and the huge losses it caused. The PS3 was the most expensive Playstation system and the most expensive commercially successful console. Something that was absent with all the other systems. So it cant be the price making the PS4 we got so much better than this imaginary, hypothetical, non existent alternative. Hypothetically, if Sony hadnt had to deal with a crisis of historic proportions, the choice of hardware could ve been different, could ve been subsidized, a little bit more juice...

I'm under the impression, the gamer of today is heavily brainwashed into deeming everything else more important than what really counts. The games. And what we see now with PS4 is the continuation (partially literally) of preceding generations. Hardly, this cant be it either.

Accessibilty? Sony was fully aware of the fact that game development became more and more complex, time and money consuming, since, you know, they are themselves heavily involved in producing videogames. Maybe not same approach to make the lifes of devs easier... maybe just... continuation of what was already available.

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both are to misleading to some extent. X1X plays many games at dynamic 4k, while pro plays many games at circa-1440p.

Do you mean recently or they were never necessary?

Microsoft did bring a lot to the table:

- Xbox Live is the standard for online gaming. Could you imagine if we left it up to Sony or Nintendo to do online gaming?

- Xbox helped the transition from Japanese dominance of the industry to Western - to the point where the PS4 is more of a western console than Japanese

- A related point, but Xbox helped made WRPG's and First Person Shooters the main genres (whether or not this is a negative is besides the point)

- They created game achievements

- First console to have a hard drive (the PS2 had an expandable bay but they never did anything with it!)

- Sony's PS2 was a good console because of the games, but for hardware it was soooo backwards. 2 controller ports, no hard drive, no standard ethernet port, etc. etc.

Microsoft was one of the real innovators in the console space. Sony was the opposite - they are the so-called "leader" but they always followed other's footsteps.

If it wasn't for Microsoft Sony would have kamikazed the gaming industry with a $799 PS3.