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Good that it was solved... haven't faced this on any console.



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cannonballZ said:
SvennoJ said:
I had the same problem with my tv, turning on when I turn the radio on, then turning my amp off when I turn the tv off. I disabled all remote startup / wakeup / listen options on both sides. It's still weird as sometimes I get audio from the tv without having to switch the amp to its arc channel, maybe that happens when my setop box is off. I can't reproduce it when I try though. Perhaps the tv switches the channel on the amp since it is still controlling the volume on the amp through hdmi-cec. (Which has an annoying delay to simply using a universal remote)

It's all not very convenient. For best sound quality the amp needs to come first since ARC is limited to dolby digital plus. Yet for 4K the tv needs to come first since my amp can only send through 4k24p max. Plus apps on the tv itself need to output to the amp as well.

So for frustrations, I have my ps4 connected directly to the amp to get lossless 7.1 sound when watching blu-ray. ps4 pro connected directly to the tv for 4k60 output and limited to lossy 5.1 DD+ sound over ARC. Even if it could play 4K UHD it would be a step back in sound quality.

That sounds very frustrating. It's one of the reasons I have stayed away from amps and such. I was thinking of just getting  a simple soundbar for my tv, would I experience some of the same issues? I hope not. But sound from tv speakers sucks, something needs to be done about it.

Soundbars are generally better than TV speakers (depending on the tv and soundbar quality)  but won't give you as much power nor as much depth in the surround as dedicated speakers. They work by reflecting the sound off the walls and ceiling (for atmos effects). Results vary depending on your room. I have high vaulted ceiling, no back and side wall since it's all open so there's not much to reflect the sound from.

I assume soundbars have hdmi 2.1 pass through as they are relatively new. It's basically an amp with build in speaker array. You connect your devices to the soundbar and use that for switching. You'lll still need HMDI ARC or an optical lead from tv to the soundbar for apps running on tv. So getting dolby atmos from Netflix running as a tv app won't be possible, unless your tv specifically supports that with for example hdmi out for audio.

LG was going to support that on their flagship tvs however
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/6/28/15887986/lg-oled-tv-dolby-atmos-arc-petition

And just in, XBox One X seems to have problems with dolby atmos as well
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2017/11/12/xbox-one-x-is-having-issues-with-lgs-latest-oled-tvs/#c3d9e40371d5

It's the price you pay with cutting edge technology. However if you just want a simple soundbar and don't care about atmos, perfect surround or the biggest booms, a decent soundbar should do just fine. Personally I'll stick to my current 5.1 speaker setup, but I paid over $1000 per speaker, no soundbar is going to match that. Perhaps some day I'll replace my amp with one that supports hdmi 2.1. It still works great though and seems a bit of a waste to replace it just for video pass-through.






SvennoJ said:

Soundbars are generally better than TV speakers (depending on the tv and soundbar quality)  but won't give you as much power nor as much depth in the surround as dedicated speakers. They work by reflecting the sound off the walls and ceiling (for atmos effects). Results vary depending on your room. I have high vaulted ceiling, no back and side wall since it's all open so there's not much to reflect the sound from.

I assume soundbars have hdmi 2.1 pass through as they are relatively new. It's basically an amp with build in speaker array. You connect your devices to the soundbar and use that for switching. You'lll still need HMDI ARC or an optical lead from tv to the soundbar for apps running on tv. So getting dolby atmos from Netflix running as a tv app won't be possible, unless your tv specifically supports that with for example hdmi out for audio.

LG was going to support that on their flagship tvs however
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/6/28/15887986/lg-oled-tv-dolby-atmos-arc-petition

And just in, XBox One X seems to have problems with dolby atmos as well
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2017/11/12/xbox-one-x-is-having-issues-with-lgs-latest-oled-tvs/#c3d9e40371d5

It's the price you pay with cutting edge technology. However if you just want a simple soundbar and don't care about atmos, perfect surround or the biggest booms, a decent soundbar should do just fine. Personally I'll stick to my current 5.1 speaker setup, but I paid over $1000 per speaker, no soundbar is going to match that. Perhaps some day I'll replace my amp with one that supports hdmi 2.1. It still works great though and seems a bit of a waste to replace it just for video pass-through.




I have vaulted ceilings as well but my tv is on a wall. I think anything will be better than the tv speakers at this point. Thanks for the detailed reply btw, I appreciate it!