your exempt from this then b/c your brain can fully function

the problem is , and rocket will agree is that there are more stupid people in this world then people like you

and b/c drunk driving can get me, and people i care about killed we have hit a snag

It's a hard subject to tackle, because I fully understand where you are coming from. I don't want anyone to get hurt just for a game I enjoy, but I also don't want to start down the road of censoring things because of the lowest common denominator. Guess I wish you could force people to take a test before they play the game or something, to see if they're dumb enough to actually be encouraged to drink and drive by its inclusion in a video game. Until that point though, I'm going to err on the side of keeping that aspect in the game as a whole, and hope that no ill comes from it.

No, people should strive to set good examples and be good examples of proper behavior, but it is not their responsibility to teach others how to behave.

I practice good manners but I'm not going to go around harassing other people or their children to do the same. 

@WOW ---teach by example not by force is what i meant so i agree with you

and i don't think letting this be a part of the game is setting a good example for the younger kids that will get a hold of it....b/c we all know they will

Why release the game at all them?  GTA has never been a shining beacon of morality.

It's that kind of groupthink that keeps getting this world into messes it shouldn't have to deal with.

Only adults are allowed to buy Grand Theft Auto. Adults shouldn't have to be preached to on a continual basis by other adults considered more "intelligent" by governmental agencies.

Entertainment is just that, entertainment. Not all of it needs to challenge humanity and its thought processes. Some of us appreciate Rambo right alongside Citizen Kane. 

^i agree with that but i know adults can handle most of the stuff and some of it while ....uncouth it wont equal out to the message sent by this part

i guess it bugs me b/c its more likely some dumb kid will play this age think drinking and driving isn't as bad as he thought since its not on the same level as droping a hooker

 rocket the problem here is that not every one like Citizen Kane...just rambo

It's their business to like what they do and dislike everything else. It's not anyone else's right to tell them otherwise.

I'll be more than happy to call them uneducated idiots and troglodytes for liking shitty movies but I have no right to tell them they're wrong for enjoying that shit or try to adapt entertainment to fit my specified guidelines for what is considered "quality" or "educational".

well i guess we have to agree to disagree...