So, you want me to conclude on what other people are saying rather than give my own opinion? Wow... the internet keeps getting worse everyday.

I'm afraid to inform, but humans aren't a hive mind.

Now to what you are saying, i disagree. Saying Joel was more violent without Elly. Honestly it couldn't tell. Do you say this based on the last level? Cause honestly he is always violent. I didn't notice a difference except in that last level when he finds out they are gonna kill her. 

But sure, i guess the first one started with a town district that was mostly safe and one can say it escalates progressively, though in truth it escalates pretty fast as soon as you leave the safe zone. 

Anyways the game does rely on gratuitous violence, it's the thing it went for. I don't see why you'd act surprised about it now cause they didn't give you a moment of respite at the start. The thing about this game is that Elly is pissed. So, pissed off person in a violence based universe equals more violence. If you didn't like it i don't understand how you enjoyed TLOU.

The world brandishes nudity and sexualization that common stuff but to mix it with violence, I think that’s too much for a videogame.I haven’t see the trailer. I’m not fan of TLOU at all. The first game for me was terrible in context. I just played it because was a gift and I still don’get the whole idea. Sorry if you found sexualization as a bad thing but thats your problem. Im not much into violence so Im not interested at all in this series. But Im not siding with you or even the journalists ,I don’t know their opinions nor even care.

What really concerns me is the acussasions of sexual harassment stated by a male employee against Naughty Dog. That seems awful and completely unexcusable. I wouln’t support anything from that point related to that company for that reason. Thats plain wrong and criminal.

18 rating is a 18 rating.
Anything allowed in movies should also be allowed in games.

This is how I see it as well.  When you look at even the most brutal of shows, they do not show this type of violence to advertise either the show or movie.  A trailer or demo is an advertisement of a game and its purpose is to sell.  When I see violence as the main stage of such demos or trailers, I question why show such scenes without the full context of the game to flesh out the story and its inclusion.  This gives the impression that the content provider is glorifying this violence.  It seem content providers are trying a little to hard to portray they are adult by having full display of such violent scenes in their trailers or Demos just like Detroit with the child abuse scene.

There is nothing wrong with games showing more graphical violent scenes to flesh out a story but I really do not need a trailer to show these brutal scenes to sell me on the game.  It just makes we wonder if you are willing to show this, how much of such scenes I have to play through or go through within the game.

It’s not bad that gamer journalist question such scenes within games because as games characters and graphics get closer to reality, the more creators in this space will have to justify why they include such graphics scenes and their relevance to the story and character of the game.

I agree to a certain extent but it's not the creators that need to justify the inclusion of such scenes, it's the art itself. After the award winning first game and the incredibly mature way it deals with its central themes, do you think TLOU2 would be any different? 

It's just virtue signalling. 

I didn't like that trailer at all. And I quite liked the first.

Total misfire by Naughty dog

And yet here we are in one of thousands of threads, Tweets, Facebook posts and Youtube breakdowns, discussing it ...

It's not a backfire, it's a certifiable HIT.

Oh stop it!

Why is it always about politics with you guys?! Give it a rest.

One can easily say that it's the middle south making everyone lose sensitivity to violence and incentivising irrational shootings from the regressive right.

Like, what do you gain from this narrative? Just generalising everything and everyone like you are right. You are not. This is a game and that's it. Just stop the nonsense.

They don't understand that if they keep going down that rabbit hole, devs will put less women in games to curb this nonsense about violence against women. If they actually cared about equality then they would be applauding Naughty Dog for having women in a game and not treating them differently than the male characters. 

Its a scene without context and thus how do you expect people to respond.  This is the problem with you advertise your game with a very violent scene to give the impression of maturity but it feels like it's trying to hard.  You do not see this with movie or TV shows because the violence is not the main point of those media but instead the complete story.  I personally do not have an issue with the violence within the game, I have an issue advertising the violence and giving the appearance it's glorifying it within the game.