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He admitted they said MS just does it MORE than Sony (not that MS is the only one). And then he said they claimed MS is the only one guilty of it.
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He admitted they said MS just does it MORE than Sony (not that MS is the only one). And then he said they claimed MS is the only one guilty of it.
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LOL it's weird when someone either doesn't read/listen to their own sources or just plain doesn't understand them.
Let me help you, pitzy. Source one says "Playstation doesn't do that thing.. 'console exclusive... launch exclusive'". She doesn't say Sony doesn't do it as much, or anything else like that. She said they don't do it. Fact: Sony has done both this gen. So again, she's either ignorant, or excusing it when Sony does it. That second one happens a lot around here. Source two goes into detail about all of this stuff "Microsoft" has added to the word exclusive to fluff it up. Yet it's all stuff Sony does as well. That's why I don't care much about what those two sources say. Like I said, they're entitled to their opinions, I agreed Microsoft has been "guilty" of it more as of late than Sony, but this is all crap every company does and pretty much always has done. I can't imagine being bothered by it. The only thing mentioned in this thread I have a problem with is the Destiny shit. You can laugh it off as Sony bias, I think that's hilarious. You're talking about two fanbases paying the same amount of money as the third fanbase but being locked out of the content they paid to access, for at least one year. Yeah, that's disgusting, and I'd say that whether it was Sony paying for it or Microsoft. I've skipped every Forza this gen because of sleazy DLC bullshit, it's not like Destiny is alone :)
LudicrousSpeed said:
LOL it's weird when someone either doesn't read/listen to their own sources or just plain doesn't understand them. Let me help you, pitzy. Source one says "Playstation doesn't do that thing.. 'console exclusive... launch exclusive'". She doesn't say Sony doesn't do it as much, or anything else like that. She said they don't do it. Fact: Sony has done both this gen. So again, she's either ignorant, or excusing it when Sony does it. That second one happens a lot around here. Source two goes into detail about all of this stuff "Microsoft" has added to the word exclusive to fluff it up. Yet it's all stuff Sony does as well. That's why I don't care much about what those two sources say. Like I said, they're entitled to their opinions, I agreed Microsoft has been "guilty" of it more as of late than Sony, but this is all crap every company does and pretty much always has done. I can't imagine being bothered by it. The only thing mentioned in this thread I have a problem with is the Destiny shit. You can laugh it off as Sony bias, I think that's hilarious. You're talking about two fanbases paying the same amount of money as the third fanbase but being locked out of the content they paid to access, for at least one year. Yeah, that's disgusting, and I'd say that whether it was Sony paying for it or Microsoft. I've skipped every Forza this gen because of sleazy DLC bullshit, it's not like Destiny is alone :) |
I backed off since you called me on my one response, and even apologized. So why are you doing it now?
Anyways, I understand my sources. You’re not reading my responses. Here’s what I said: “I’m not saying—and neither is that article—that Sony has never done it. I actually said exactly that in my prior posts. What everyone is saying is simply that MS is way worse in this regard, esp in the past couple years, than Sony and Nintendo.”
I referenced the ARTICLE and MY FEELING on the matter. I’m fully aware of what Allanah Pearce said. She spoke more in black and white, but she seems to be referencing the current and the past couple of years, and doesn’t say Sony has NEVER done it. But that’s why I mentioned only the ARTICLE in that post, bc it was more thought out. Forget Allanah Pearce’s comment if you want if you think it’s too unfair (tho again, she spends more of her time on an Xbox podcast than the PS one).
So again, the article doesn’t say what you’re claiming. The FIRST thing he says is: “No company has been more guilty, in recent years, of playing fast and loose with the word exclusive than Microsoft.”
Yes, the writer lists some of MS’s exclusive terminology that Sony has also used. BUT HE’S NOT SAYING SONY HAS NEVER DONE IT. They’re saying MS just does it MORE, esp in recent years. You keep repeating that Sony has used confusing exclusive terminology as well, not just MS. But no one is saying Sony hasn’t done it in the past. So why do you keep using that as your primary argument?
And as far as the Destiny thing, the only thing I was laughing at was that, out of everything that writer said, you said the ONLY thing you agreed with was one of his criticisms of Sony. Maybe I’m wrong, but it felt like more bias against Sony/for MS. I’ve never played Destiny, but I can totally see why Xbox fans would be pissed about the Destiny exclusive content. I mean, they announced the deal ahead of time, but that doesn’t change it for people who can’t afford a PS4 or who prefer playing multiplats on XBO for the achievements and such. I was pissed about the Xbox deal for RotTR, bc I only play exclusives on my XBO and prefer multiplats on my PS4. Tho I realized I didn’t have as much of a right to bed pissed at MS as I did Square Enix, bc it was their fans they were neglecting (I mean, if MS had the opportunity to gain an advantage, why wouldn’t they, if SE was on board?)
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If PUBG isn’t an XBO exclusive, this wouldn’t be PR; it would be straight up lying and false advertising. |
Not really. If it's exclusive for 6 months or a year the package would be truthful.
| Hiku said: How is it not? Microsoft use "console launch exclusive" and Sony use "exclusive console debut". |
Because the two things literally mean the exact same thing. Per usual here, MicroSony does something "bad" but it's only "bad" when Microsoft does it, lol. Again, never change, Chartz. Oh, ok, it's "how" Sony uses it. Ok, cool story, gotcha.
| Hiku said: You ignored how during Microsoft's E3 presentation trailer they used two different terms for PUBG. "XBO Console Launch Exclusive" & "XBO Exclusive". |
Uh, what? You do remember that I am the one who told you they used two different terms for PUBG at E3? That I am the one who told you it said one thing before the trailer, and another afterwards. You didn't know that. In fact you knew very little about the MS E3 while discussing it factually in this thread. So yeah, I'm not forgetting something that I literally made you aware of, lol. The very first time MS discussed PUBG they said it was a console launch exclusive. It's still a launch exclusive. The developer has said they've been in talks with Sony. The game is coming to PS4.
| Hiku said: If they are indeed only using that term because it's the preview version, then that's still pretty stupid. Where do we draw the line on misleading advertisement? Should Sony put "console exclusive" on any game that has a demo on the PSN store, simply because that version (where there are some differences to the XBO demo, or perhaps only that the button prompts are XOΔ□) won't appear on any other console? That would be ridiculous. |
Totally, breh. Exclusive button prompts or an exclusive demo are completely the same thing as the entire game itself. Don't fall while you're making that gargantuan reach, please. I know I said it before but lulz personal attacks brought me back into the thread but I'm washing my hands of this discussion, we've reached the bottom of the barrel with what you just posted, no offense. A for effort.
Now that we know ms trying to buy Bluehole failed it's even further confirmation PUBG is timed.
| spurgeonryan said: I scrolled through a bit, and still see nothing saying what this game is. What does that acronym stand for? |
Player Unknown‘s Battlegrounds. It’s a first person battle royale PC game that has sold gangbusters in a very short period of time.
Hiku said:
What the... Now on to the second part of my post, where I mentioned how the terms are used. I mentioned it because you didn't mention it at all in that post.
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An Xbox Game Preview is not the entire game. It's similar to Steam's Early Access, where you get to pay to play unfinished versions of a game. |
Dude, don’t waste your time. After going back and forth with LudicrousSpeed in this thread, I can say that he is the most unreasonable user I’ve dealt with in my entire 8 years on VGC. I don’t think he’s stupid; I think he intentionally ignores everything and anything he wants in order to defend MS to the bitter end. I felt like I was taking crazy pills while trying to reason with him.
Hiku said:
I wanted to describe how I felt the urge to smash my head against a wall in regards to the first part, because I did not know how to begin to explain it to him, because I could not fathom how he could get something so simple, so wrong, twice. |
Haha this made me lol bc I had the same feeling trying to have a discussion with him
Wow! Monster Hunter World beta for Playstation Plus members begins December 9th?!?!?!?! I didn't even know there was a beta!
Looks like this thread was worth something after all!