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Disrespectful. 12 11.88%
 
Lazy bum. 10 9.90%
 
TL;DR. 12 11.88%
 
*pokes with pitchfork* 5 4.95%
 
Who? 27 26.73%
 
His loss that he misses out. 8 7.92%
 
Xbox is the best box. 22 21.78%
 
Scoreboard 5 4.95%
 
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JRPGfan said:

Trying to rap my head around the OP:

1) a praise xbox one for getting something like 2k sales for Forza 7 launch in japan.
2) kerotan/Barney telling you to make this thread, cuz its thread worthy.
3) your opinion that soon playstation will be irellavant in japan, because of switch.
4) your pot shot + poll basically bullying someone who basically said TL;DR

not sure what to make of it lol.
I read the intirety of the OP and yeah... 


Pretty much what I thought. What was the reason for this thread?!

PS4 and Switch sales are both going to be lit with GTS and SMO coming out. Going to be an interesting battle.


RolStoppable said:
Farsala said:

Quantity can make an impact, but in the end won't mean too much. Consoles need big games too.

Proof: Vita

It might still be in the lead but will soon lose to PS4 and Switch, despite having the majority of games in Media create 1000 in both 2015 and 2016.

Yes, consoles need big games and they are harder to come by than pure quantity.

I'll try to frame the point made in the original post in a different way: The PS4 is already at the point where it has gotten about as good as it can get while the Switch still has big room for improvement, yet Switch is already beating the PS4 comfortably.

Nah...With GTS coming out, Ni No Kuni 2, God of War, RDR2, Days Gone, The Last of Us part 2.. all those games will initiate sales bumps in Japan as well. The peak isn't done yet. That said the Switch is going to sell like crazy soon. I'll buy one just for Project Octopath Traveler, and Mario of course.



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Even worse is their position on Amazon ranking.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

There's no way Sony is just going to go, "Why, of course, Nintendo, please have free reign over our home nation. We're content with Europe." They HAVE to have something they're cooking up to try to win back the Japanese audience. If not, I really question their focus.



Medisti said:
There's no way Sony is just going to go, "Why, of course, Nintendo, please have free reign over our home nation. We're content with Europe." They HAVE to have something they're cooking up to try to win back the Japanese audience. If not, I really question their focus.

Why? The PS4 has never ben stronger in Japan.



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RolStoppable said:

VGC regulars may know about barneystinson69 who is prohibited from creating political threads because he tended to inject an aggressive and shortsighted agenda into everything he posted. He has gotten around it by asking others to post political threads for him. Now you might think "Damn, what a sly fox!", but others merely posted the news without injecting any agenda, so it was ultimately pretty pointless for barney to do so. This thread right here exists for a similar reason and that's what makes things interesting. Why? Because it's my thread.

Forza Motorsport 7 charted at the very backend of Media Create - this tracker provides a weekly top 50, only the top 20 have their exact sales displayed - and has been the first Xbox One game to do so in a while. #20 in the Media Create charts sold just over 4k copies during this tracking period, so it's safe to say that Forza Motorsport 7 didn't even sell 4k units in its debut week. The game totally bombed in Japan.

"Rol, us Xbox guys have written off Xbox One in Japan three years ago already, so why beat a dead horse?"

While you now might object to the above statement because I used plural to describe the Xbox fanbase on VGC, let us focus on what matters. Xbox One is dead in the water in Japan. Xbox as a brand is a lost cause in Japan. Essentially, it's pointless to talk about Xbox any longer. Therefore we'll take a closer look at the rest of the Japanese market, the other 99.9%.

Switch is off to a hot start, sitting at 1.78m after seven months since launch. There's little reason to worry about Switch's future in the country, especially once you factor in that Japan still feels the pain of shortages and therefore Switch's current LTD could have been higher than the actual total. The 3DS is slowly on its way out and Switch is taking over without any interruption to Nintendo's strong position in Japan. Where does that leave PlayStation?

The PS4 - commonly said to have excellent sales in Japan - is currently tracking at peak year performance which could result in 2m units sold this year alone, bringing it close to LTD sales of 6m after just under four years on the market. Probably doesn't sound impressive after you've read about Switch's numbers, a console that is just getting started and already beating around the PS4 like an Xbox. It sounds even less impressive once you consider how healthy the retail release schedule has been for the PS4 and how barren it has been for Switch. The position for PlayStation in Japan becomes even more worrisome once you factor in that Sony is refusing to make another portable console. It already seems like a foregone conclusion that PlayStation will do worse in generation 9 (PS5) than in generation 8 (PS4 + PSV), after already seeing a significant decline in gen 8 which couldn't/won't match up to gen 7 (PS3 + PSP).

What this means in the big picture is that Nintendo's trajectory of absorbing Sony's third party support - a trend that started with the DS in generation 7 - is bound to continue. More and more Japanese developers and publishers are running out of options to refrain from developing for a Nintendo console.

Is PlayStation going to become the next Xbox in Japan? No. But Sony isn't doing anything to adjust to the market conditions, so it's fair to conclude that they are ceding a large chunk of the market to Nintendo without putting up any fight because they know they can't compete.

Yes, who do you think would believe we have more than 1 Xbox fan on the site?

And I guess the person (or toad) that wanted this thread isn't very satisfied with the spin you put kkkkk



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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SvennoJ said:
Nr 50 today, nr 1 tomorrow. The great comeback of the XBox One has started. Now it's in the charts nothing can stop it anymore from claiming dominance. With a few copies of Forza are out in the wild, word of mouth will work its wonder and soon Switches and PS4s will soon sit by the side of the road waiting for the garbage truck.

X1 will dominate PS4 globally in Japan?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Medisti said:
There's no way Sony is just going to go, "Why, of course, Nintendo, please have free reign over our home nation. We're content with Europe." They HAVE to have something they're cooking up to try to win back the Japanese audience. If not, I really question their focus.

I completely forgot about Monster Hunter World. This alone is going to sell crazy amounts of PS4s in Japan.



Medisti said:
There's no way Sony is just going to go, "Why, of course, Nintendo, please have free reign over our home nation. We're content with Europe." They HAVE to have something they're cooking up to try to win back the Japanese audience. If not, I really question their focus.

I don't know what Sony can do, the Monster Hunter games skipping the Vita in favour of the 3DS was a big blow for them, I don't know if they can ever make another successful handheld.



So a game bombed in Japan on a platform that bombed in Japan? Interesting.



Errorist76 said:
Medisti said:
There's no way Sony is just going to go, "Why, of course, Nintendo, please have free reign over our home nation. We're content with Europe." They HAVE to have something they're cooking up to try to win back the Japanese audience. If not, I really question their focus.

I completely forgot about Monster Hunter World. This alone is going to sell crazy amounts of PS4s in Japan.

It'll definitely do really well, but console Monster Hunters have never sold anywhere near as well as the handheld ones. Monster Hunter Tri on Wii in 2009 is the only one that broke a million in Japan that was on console, and the Wii had a much larger install base there than PS4 does now. Meanwhile, the same game on 3DS sold nearly double what it did on Wii when it launched two years later in 2011. The Wii U version in 2012 was abysmal, but I won't make the mistake of trying to use Wii U sales of anything as evidence.