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Lawlight on 03 October 2017
Jumpin said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Isn't the Muslim situation quite different in Europe, or am I wrong on that?

Sorry, I was being facetious. Unfortunately Germans aren't blessed with comedic skill =(

The Muslim situation in Europe is essentially this. If you live in areas where there are Muslims, you're probably not worried about them (Around 9/10 chance), you hear some news about shit that happens, but that isn't about 99.99% of them; just like other people - look at all the mass shootings in the US, thousands of them in the last decade, it doesn't mean you need to be suspicious of every American. If you live in areas where Muslims generally don't exist, you feel like you're fucking terrified, feeling under siege, and wonder when you are going to be the next victim - if Muslims were dangerous, it is the people who who have almost no chance of being harmed by them that are the most afraid.

For comparison's sake, the refugee crime is no where near the huge spike that was seen after East Germany was let back in. I think part of the big issue with refugees who commit crimes is a lot of them are very young, and do not have a proper upbringing. There is definitely no benefit to being Muslim, as there is much more scrutiny on behaviour by certain parties.

Yeah, so much scrutiny that there were 0 convictions for the Cologne sex attacks. As for the refugees being very young, hard to say given that:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-child-asylum-seekers-adult-age-test-migrants-refugee-crisis-a7464081.html



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VGPolyglot on 03 October 2017
Lawlight said:
VGPolyglot said:

Muslim privilege? With all of the Islamophobia that is around?

They got away with a racial attack because they were Muslim. What else would you call that? Think I can get away with drunk driving too if I say that I'm Muslim and therefore not used to alcohol?

I guess you'll have to try to find out!



Errorist76 on 03 October 2017
Lawlight said:
Jumpin said:

Sorry, I was being facetious. Unfortunately Germans aren't blessed with comedic skill =(

The Muslim situation in Europe is essentially this. If you live in areas where there are Muslims, you're probably not worried about them (Around 9/10 chance), you hear some news about shit that happens, but that isn't about 99.99% of them; just like other people - look at all the mass shootings in the US, thousands of them in the last decade, it doesn't mean you need to be suspicious of every American. If you live in areas where Muslims generally don't exist, you feel like you're fucking terrified, feeling under siege, and wonder when you are going to be the next victim - if Muslims were dangerous, it is the people who who have almost no chance of being harmed by them that are the most afraid.

For comparison's sake, the refugee crime is no where near the huge spike that was seen after East Germany was let back in. I think part of the big issue with refugees who commit crimes is a lot of them are very young, and do not have a proper upbringing. There is definitely no benefit to being Muslim, as there is much more scrutiny on behaviour by certain parties.

Yeah, so much scrutiny that there were 0 convictions for the Cologne sex attacks. As for the refugees being very young, hard to say given that:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-child-asylum-seekers-adult-age-test-migrants-refugee-crisis-a7464081.html

You should really stay off Breitbart news...it’s not good for your mental health. Are you visiting that the Donald site regularly as well?!



collint0101 on 03 October 2017
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Jumpin said:

Sorry, I was being facetious. Unfortunately Germans aren't blessed with comedic skill =(

The Muslim situation in Europe is essentially this. If you live in areas where there are Muslims, you're probably not worried about them (Around 9/10 chance), you hear some news about shit that happens, but that isn't about 99.99% of them; just like other people - look at all the mass shootings in the US, thousands of them in the last decade, it doesn't mean you need to be suspicious of every American. If you live in areas where Muslims generally don't exist, you feel like you're fucking terrified, feeling under siege, and wonder when you are going to be the next victim - if Muslims were dangerous, it is the people who who have almost no chance of being harmed by them that are the most afraid.

For comparison's sake, the refugee crime is no where near the huge spike that was seen after East Germany was let back in. I think part of the big issue with refugees who commit crimes is a lot of them are very young, and do not have a proper upbringing. There is definitely no benefit to being Muslim, as there is much more scrutiny on behaviour.

See, this is why i'm confused. I generally try to follow some politics in European countries, but on the situation of terrorism is seems like 50% of the people on the internet think there's a legit issue, whereas the other 50% just call them no-life bigots who sit on their computer all day. I don't know what's true! Damn fearmongering.

From my perspective, which honestly may be very wrong because I'm an American looking at it from the outside the crime caused my refugees seems to be way more isolated than some would have you believe. Yes there are issues with both Islamic terrorism and the amount of people some nations let in within a short period of time but when you take into account all of the rapes and murders and major terrorist attacks it really is no worse than a typical day in the United States. I feel as if there are many truths behind the problems people typically bring up in regards of the refugee crisis but part of the problem probably comes down to the media making more money off of fear and violence than good news. 



Lawlight on 03 October 2017
Errorist76 said:
Lawlight said:

Yeah, so much scrutiny that there were 0 convictions for the Cologne sex attacks. As for the refugees being very young, hard to say given that:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-child-asylum-seekers-adult-age-test-migrants-refugee-crisis-a7464081.html

You should really stay off Breitbart news...it’s not good for your mental health. Are you visiting that the Donald site regularly as well?!

*yawn* when you have no argument against something factual...



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Lawlight on 03 October 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

They got away with a racial attack because they were Muslim. What else would you call that? Think I can get away with drunk driving too if I say that I'm Muslim and therefore not used to alcohol?

I guess you'll have to try to find out!

You didn't respond to the first part of my post.



VGPolyglot on 03 October 2017
Lawlight said:
VGPolyglot said:

I guess you'll have to try to find out!

You didn't respond to the first part of my post.

I call it confirmation bias on your part.



Jumpin on 03 October 2017
collint0101 said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

See, this is why i'm confused. I generally try to follow some politics in European countries, but on the situation of terrorism is seems like 50% of the people on the internet think there's a legit issue, whereas the other 50% just call them no-life bigots who sit on their computer all day. I don't know what's true! Damn fearmongering.

From my perspective, which honestly may be very wrong because I'm an American looking at it from the outside the crime caused my refugees seems to be way more isolated than some would have you believe. Yes there are issues with both Islamic terrorism and the amount of people some nations let in within a short period of time but when you take into account all of the rapes and murders and major terrorist attacks it really is no worse than a typical day in the United States. I feel as if there are many truths behind the problems people typically bring up in regards of the refugee crisis but part of the problem probably comes down to the media making more money off of fear and violence than good news. 

I think you're fairly correct.

Part of the issue is that the media makes crime committed by certain groups more "important" than crime committed by others; and they make it as big as if there was a war going on where hundreds of thousands have been killed, and you're in danger too. Then they attribute that crime to a much larger group of people (Muslims) instead of more refined levels, like Daesh/ISIS members. Although, personally speaking, I do believe that all people deserve individuality regardless of what culture, gender, or race, etc... that they belong to. If someone wants to dress up in all black, they shouldn't be considered a mass murderer or any more a potential mass murderer than someone dressed up in colourful clothes; even if some famous mass murderers liked to dress up that way (like columbine).



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Proxy-Pie on 03 October 2017
the_dark_lewd said:
Proxy-Pie said:
It annoys me how the media isn't branding this as a terrorist attack. If the man was olive skinned he'd be branded a Muslim Extremist, whether or not he actively practices the faith. SMH.

What is it with this ridiculous narrative popping up everywhere?

Terrorism has nothing to do with the severity of an event. It's defined (if you go by either the UN or NATO definitions) as being violence on civilians for the sake of pushing a political agenda.

Arguing about the definition was not my point at all, but either way:



Lawlight on 03 October 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

You didn't respond to the first part of my post.

I call it confirmation bias on your part.

More like something factual that happens that goes against your narrative.