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sethnintendo said:
NATO said:

Except sony still make, and sell, millions of smartphones.

They sure as hell dropped off the list of top 12

 

Must not be too many millions.

So, that's why the guy said he sees limited potential in gaming handheld. Maybe sony is going to stop producing millions and millions of smartphones.



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Lawlight said:
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No, he's wrong. There's no market for their handheld business model which is a different matter.

Also the main problem of dedicated handled gaming in the west is not a lack of demand, is mostly a lack of offer. Most prominet 3rd party form the west aren't willing to make high quality handheld games, becuase it doesn't fit the AAA business model.

No, there's no market for any dedicated handheld. As I said before, even Nintendo saw the writing on the wall. They released the 3DS at a time where only 35% of the US population owned a smartphone. Now it's 95%. It's no wonder that 3DS peaked in 2011, in its year of release. Different times now. And Japan accounts for 35% of the sales. What does that say about the west's inclination towards dedicated handhelds?

As I said, it's a matter of business model, not a matter of demand. My argument is that PSVita failed and the 3DS did worse that its predecessor not because there isn't potential demand, but because they both failed to capture that demand.

The 3DS was very far form an ideal handheld platform, if fact it was very disappointing on many aspects. It put all its bets on the wrong horse (stereoscopic 3D) while not offering any substantial innovation compared to its predecessor, lacking behind in many other departments (graphics, connectivity) and it also represented a downgrade in some departments compared to its prodecessor (portability, battery life), add to that  they've completely missed the price point, so much that they had to cut price substantially. The console never had any substantial 3rd party support form the west (do did its very successful predecessor). Add all of that to list and despite all the macroscopic flaws it will still be able to reach 70m units.



sethnintendo said:
NATO said:

Except sony still make, and sell, millions of smartphones.

They sure as hell dropped off the list of top 12

 

Must not be too many millions.

Who the fuck is Micromax?  lol damn Sony.  Serves them right though, Xperia's have terrible build quality and are insanely overpriced.



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NATO said:
sethnintendo said:

They sure as hell dropped off the list of top 12

Must not be too many millions.

From April 2016 to March 2017 15 million xperia phones were sold.

While a small drop in the water for overall smartphone sales, it's higher than the switch will do in the same time frame. 

I guess Nintendo must not be selling too many millions either.

There is a difference though.  Sony can't collect anything from apps sold on Google store yet Nintendo can collect third party royalties and sell their own software.

So Nintendo is selling hardware and software and Sony is selling hardware.



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NATO said:
sethnintendo said:

They sure as hell dropped off the list of top 12

Must not be too many millions.

From April 2016 to March 2017 15 million xperia phones were sold.

While a small drop in the water for overall smartphone sales, it's higher than the switch will do in the same time frame. 

I guess Nintendo must not be selling too many millions either.

Source?



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KBG29 said:
Wow, what a week this guy is putting together. First he is uncomfortable being the market leader in VR, and now he can't see the massive growth in expanding the ecosystem beyond the home. I think it is time for some new leadership, because Andrew House has already thrown in the towel. If you don't even believe in the product, or have any vision for the future of the brand, what the hell are you doing?

I know I shouldn't be surprised, Sony has been steady as the tide for the 20 years I have been following the company. PS4 and the PlayStation ecosystem is becoming too big for them to handle, and now they will start to tear everything down. The amount of potential that is wasted at this company is absolutely incredible.

PlayStation 4 has provided them everything they need to re-build their entire electronics division, and unify all of their products under a single OS and Store front. If they fail to build a rock solid ecosystem with the hardware, software, and services right in fornt of them at this moment, then they deserve to become irrelevant. I have nearly doubled my money on their stock, but I think it is just about time to find it a new home.

In my opinion Sony should upgrade PSN first instead of creating the line of devices that run the same OS. PSN is nowhere near Xbox Live and Steam at this point. 



 

This article has a lot of stuff. 1st it shows Sony will not counter the Switch by making another handheld. So that means only the PS5 will compete with the Switch.

This means the Switch will have a monopoly in handheld gaming. This will start affecting 3rd party support as well. According to an analyst.

9th generation will be interesting once it gets into full swing. We will have a console war that will determine if home consoles or hybrid consoles are the way of the future.



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