After the travesty that was Vita, and the fact that Switch has an extremely low battery life in portable mode for its more demanding games, portability has become very overrated and niche. Switch is great, but the most I've used the portability for is to either play in my bed sometimes, or take it with me to the bathroom. Hardly a game changer if the games are going to look and run significantly worse than other platforms. 

Not just he trying to still credit, but he left quite Switch games like Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2, Pokemon Tournament DX, Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle, or Nintendo 3DS games like Metroid and Pokemon.

Full handheld mode is game changer for some people, and handheld mode doesn't mean that people will play it just outside of house, they can played it in bed, in kitchen, in bathroom...

Eh, saying that outside Zelda and Mario there is nothing else for Nitnendo users is like saying that Sony outside Horizon doesn't have much, beside Zelda BotW and Mario Oddysey, you have MK8D, Splatoon 2, ARMS, Xenoblade 2, Pokemon Tournament DX, Snipperclips, Metroid and Pokemon.

But fact is that full handheld mode is game changer for some users.

Thats just how you personally used Vita, but fact is that full handheld mode game changer is for some users, its not hard to realise that for some people prefer more to play in handheld than on TV. Also, games on 6" screen even 720p usually look better than in 1080p on huge ass TV. So you can bet that plenty of users will buy Skyrim, Fifa, Doom...on Switch despite they have PS4 or PC.

Such a simplistic way to see things... Is not about playing outside your home, is about flexibility, people with Switch carry the console to every corner of their own home, they can be playing while cooking, while shitting, while watching TV, lying on the sofa, in the bed, in the terrace etc you don't need to be sitting on the same couch in front of the same TV everytime you want to play, you can play anywhere inside or outside your home, which makes you want to play more.

Technically, I am almost positive Rockstar will win 2017 because GTA V is still selling and they are literally probably going to sell another couple million units of LA Noire on multiple consoles despite that game being several years old, which means cheap investment and they still get more money with minimum effort.

In terms of sales, who knows, Nintendo has won themselves a platform, positive coverage and audience with the new hardware and the various games but you don't 'win' a year without actual sales and despite good sales for their major games, they are not doing Destiny 2 or EA annual Sports release 20XX (with new story mode ) numbers outside of the Pokemon franchise and even their upcoming releases are not likely to do those numbers immediately.

If we made listwars without exclusion them petty arguments would disappear and a thread like this would not pass page 1. @Bandoor

So putting 3rd party games on Sony list is stealling credit and not just a very direct way to put how bad nintendo have its relationship and that only now it's improving? The OP itself put the winning because of more 3rd party support, but we also have to disconsider that PS4 have it? Why don't you put on the OP that only Nintendo fans could post or that only positive posts would be accepted instead of pretending you are arguing anything by making silly exclusions?

I find it funny how big Sony fans talk about all these exclusive games when, many of those games have sold roughly like this:

-Yakuza 6: 350k
-Nier Automata: 800k
-Persona 5: 1.01 million
-Horizon Zero Dawn: 3.36 million
-Nioh: 750k

With an installbase of 65 million, how come those numbers are relatively low? Certainly the ones listing them are also buying them? I mean, even Naughty Dogs latest game is looking to be under performing. What gives?

first of all.....

I am quite certain that 30-40 percent of sales with new games coming out, especially AAA or AA ip are digital. 

also, consideing the fact the PS4 has the highest attatch rate for games EVER, I'm talking 8-9 games per system sold..... and is consistently(according to VGC) selling more software than the SWITCH, 3DS, XBOX ONE, and others combined world wide.... 

this isn't a first party vs first party debate.... this is a software debate.... why? Because the console has AAA third party IP that are only on that platform, or shared with the PC/XBOX..... 

I'll update the list..... but the difference is dramatic to say the absolute least. Take Zelda out and it isn't even a debate at all. 

Nintendo is the winner since beginning of its existence

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/04/04/nier-automata-crosses-one-million-copies-sold/

http://www.dualshockers.com/nier-automata-passes-1-5-million-copies-shipped-worldwide/

Considering Nier is at almost 600k on Steam and those reports are from when the game had significantly less PC sales, I would not be surprised if the PS4 version is at 1.5 mil by itself

https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/7/15223236/persona-5-sales-figures-worldwide

Keep in mind this is a few days after Worldwide launch, meaning Western countries probably covered anywhere from 900-700k units

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/07/27/persona-5-sales-tops-1-8-million-worldwide/#/slide/1

Nioh sold 1 million 2 weeks after launch ...

http://gematsu.com/2017/02/nioh-worldwide-sales-top-one-million

By now it's probably at at least 2 mil although i'd bet it's close to 2.5 mil. This compares nicely to official Souls products like Bloodborne, especially when you consider it's not an official From Soft product.

Now of course some of these are shipped figures, but denying the success of these games is ridiculous.

Especially Horizon Zero Dawn. It sold 3.4 million copies in two months. 27% of it's sales, or 915,000 out of 3.4 mil, were digital. 

I did a somewhat confusing and sloppy comparison on the Horizon Zero Dawn page, but basically VGChartz has Horizon overtracked by like 250k. Take that away physically, and use the 27% digital rate to calculate sales. That's around 4.26 million copies sold as of 22nd of june. Keep in mind the Legend of Zelda sold 3.94 million in 4 months on Switch and 5 million if you include Wii U. This means Horizon is roughly selling at 37,368 per day on average as of june 22 while Zelda is selling roughly 41,322 per day on average as of june 30th.

Both games are incredibly close, and pretending like Horizon is worse because of it's install base is cringe worthy. It's a new IP. Aside from that, PS platforms operate more like PC's, they're meant to be an open market place of games. Because of this certain IPs serve a smaller or larger niche based on the title. Unlike Nintendo platformers where the attach rate between their ip and console is huge.

Besides, a standalone expansion/DLC being bought at half the rate of Uncharted 4 is hardly failing, lmao