I don't agree on PE strike, sure I don't know if they are crazy enough to do it, but I still think that NK will not choose to go to war, South Korea can't do anything now, the North don't see them as a freewill country, so they might agree on negotiations with USA under Chinese hosting

 At this point, I would not be surprised if China's stance, on taking NK's side if we attack first, is just a bluff in itself. China is so heavily tied to us, whereas NK has become nothing more a debt to them. I believe that's just their way of trying to prevent NK from detonating a warhead so close their border, but if we attacked first, I think China would hang back. 

That being said though, I still disagree with a preemptive strike. NK has been blowing smoke up our asses since the cease-fire was signed. This is nothing new. They know the second they harm a hair on either us or our allies that they're done. 

NK struck first in 1950.

Go back to defending ISIS, Ruler. You were more amusing then.

Never underestimate the power of stupidity. This is Kim Jong Un's North Korea, not Il's or Sung's. That said, all we can most optimally do is react, not act so as not to draw the ire of China and Russia. Let's get Japan and South Korea to build up their military to the distaste of China, not that China can rationally do anything about it: it would be North Korea's doing that would be empowering US allies to build up their military.

We shoot something towards them and they shoot mass amounts of stuff at S Korea which is 18 minutes away in missile fly time. Those systems to shoot those missiles down are only 60% accurate, so SK/Japan gets hit with 40% of the 1000s of bombs that crazy fat fool shoots at them. So 100s of 1000s die a couple minutes before that fat fuc gets glassed over. Not a good outcome. That ugly loon has the whole world by the balls and he knows it. Too bad we can't shoot an asteroid at his palace at 3AM...

Please North Korea, strike Arizona first. I can't take life anymore!

Edit : Wow, just caught up with all the thread. Spicy posts Captain Explosion

I don't get it. I thought South Korea was super un-important but apparently Seoul is one of the most populated cities ever? That's crazy. Never even heard of it.

No, because there is no threat: Whatever some morons might be telling, North Korea will not attack/strike first.

As dozens of experts have pointed out, about the only reason countries like Iran, North Korea etc. are interested in atomic or hydrogen bombs is because these weapons have historically turned out to be the best deterrent against being attacked by the US: The US has so far never attacked a country that has the atomic bomb, because of the danger of retaliatory strikes.

What would be your position in a possible scenario where not killing each and every newborn baby resulted in a Zombie newborn uprising, killing each and every grown-up?

It's just not going to happen. Countries like NK might indeed use these weapons, but only for retaliatory strikes, not for first strikes. I know many people believe the NK leadership to be completely crazy and irrational, but they aren't as crazy and irrational as to attack/first strike a country like the US; they are very well aware that they'd be wiped off the map in an instant.

If one is afraid of his country being struck by a NK atomic/hydrogen bomb, the easiest way to avoid this is by stopping the US government from attacking NK: No attack, no retaliatory strike. The people who put US citizens in danger of being killed by NK bombs and causing WW3 are the people supporting preemptive strikes against NK.

Its time that trump does something to stop Boo(kimjonun)

I highly doubt the North could integrate the South.
Once an entire country has tasted such economic, social and cultural freedom... It is not always easy to take that away, especially when your entire ability to stay in power is to attack the very foundations of information and education.

Pretty much everything rests on China's shoulders.

A war with North Korea would be far to costly if China backs North Korea.
North Korea would also have the support of countries like Russia, Bulgaria and probably other dictatorships in the area.
We already went down this path once before.

You do realise who is running the USA right now, right?

That is provided the North can get around South Koreas and Japans defenses.
I think people forget that North Korea is like over half a century behind the rest of the world in technology terms, which does give defense systems a big advantage.

The only real threat North Korea has is their bombs/missiles and artillery.

And they can be mitigated to a degree with defense systems like Iron Dome. - The big advantage there is that the North isn't particularly advanced so cannot load up it's missiles with stealth technology to bypass that.

The Military itself isn't the best trained due to lack of a decent education system which means they are pretty ignorant on modern military tactics and technology.
They do have numbers... But South Koreas automated defenses would tear them a new one if they attempted a zerg rush.

In this case. The USA does have a mutual defensive agreement with Japan, Australia, South Korea, New Zealand, Canada, Philippines, large swathe of Europe, Thailand, United Kingdom and so on...

So if the North Korea attacks any of those parties... Then it doesn't matter how you feel. The Regime will be judged and action will be taken, if there happens to be casualties of war, then there will be casualties of war, it's a sad reality of life in general.

North Korea wasn't testing Nuclear Weapons over Japan. They were testing their long-range missile technology.

The USA has mutual defense obligations.
For instance the American military trains with the Australian military here... And both Militaries gain new tactics and such.

1) They wouldn't evacuate the city.

2) South Korea has defense systems to mitigate the missile and artillary threat.

3) South Korea has advanced warning systems in place and the city is littered with easily accessible bomb shelters.

Remember there is a stupidly massive technological divide between the North and the South.

No. It is because of China.
In-case you aren't aware... China has been investing and building up it's army... Which has been propelled thanks to it's incredible growth fueled by it's industrial revolution... Which means it's sphere of influence has grown and will continue to grow.

A country... Even the USA just can't do whatever it desires in that sphere.
Especially as China would have the support of countries like Russia on top of it.

North Korea shares a border with Russia.

You can bet your ass Russia will throw it's support behind North Korea just to spite the USA.

Can you point me to another country that would murder someone and their entire family just because they have a western movie on a VHS tape?

It's terrorism.

The weapons they make are for defensive purposes. It's clear they just want to take part in the MAD doctrine. Once they have nuclear bombs, no one will dare to strike them first.

A pre-emptive strike against North Korea will prove the regime correct and it might even turn South Korea away from the USA, remind you, many people still have family across the border and they're still all Korean.