Aeolus451 said:
vivster said:
Actually it is the government's job to provide people with the necessary tools to live a decent life. In fact, that's their only job. The financial side of things is a bit more complex but that's a puzzle that will have to be solved in the near future.
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I disagree with this. The government is not some giant tit that gives succor to people. It's supposed to provide security/protection, rule of law and sustain a stable enviroment for us so we can provide for ourselves. We pay taxes in exchange for that stuff. Giving away free money expecting everything to turn out all rosy falls more in line with socialism or communism.
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If "sustaining a stable environment to provide for ourselves" means handing out free money in the future so be it. A meritocracy is nice but that's not the real world. The government is already handing out free money, just in different forms. This one is just a bit more direct than others. I'm not saying the plan is perfect but it is one of the models we will have to have a close look at in the future.
Just like democracy isn't perfect but we have to make due because there isn't a better way for now.
fatslob-:O said:
vivster said:
Actually it is the government's job to provide people with the necessary tools to live a decent life. In fact, that's their only job. The financial side of things is a bit more complex but that's a puzzle that will have to be solved in the near future.
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It's also the government's job to protect the currency they created so their citizens don't go around carrying poop ...
If goverment's should provide their citizens a decent life then those 'necessary tools' should be 'investments' like education, other low cost subsidies, subsidies that can profit, not 'entitlements' like healthcare or social security ... (It might finally make sense to subsidize public transportation since we won't have to pay the any drivers in the future.)
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It's a financial puzzle as I said. The government is already handing out free stuff. This more direct approach could solve some issues and should be looked at. Society is changing and the current models are not able to sustain a growing and more and more technologized society.