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JRPGfan on 27 August 2017
jardesonbarbosa said:

It looks the same to me. I know Xbox One X is better because everyone is saying it's better and because it's supposed to be better, but apart from some blood on her face, I really can't see any big difference. I'm more interested in 60 fps gaming, will the Xbox One X be the first console to deliver that?

The PS4 version runs it at 60fps too... but in the most demanding area's it can drop to the 50-55fps range.



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JRPGfan on 27 August 2017
VGPolyglot said:
CGI-Quality said:

Depth of Field

What does that mean, exactly?

its a screen effect, it blurrs things on purpose, so your eyes naturally focus on the thing they want you too.

They use it in movies too, and might explain why the wall looks that way.



VGPolyglot on 27 August 2017
JRPGfan said:
VGPolyglot said:

What does that mean, exactly?

its a screen effect, it blurrs things on purpose, so your eyes naturally focus on the thing they want you too.

They use it in movies too, and might explain why the wall looks that way.

Oh, so I guess it's used for cinematic effect then.



JRPGfan on 27 August 2017
VGPolyglot said:
JRPGfan said:

its a screen effect, it blurrs things on purpose, so your eyes naturally focus on the thing they want you too.

They use it in movies too, and might explain why the wall looks that way.

Oh, so I guess it's used for cinematic effect then.

The xbox one X version currently doesnt have it,.... and looks much better because of it.

Not all developers are equally good at using with stuff like motion blurr & dept of field.



VGPolyglot on 27 August 2017
JRPGfan said:
VGPolyglot said:

Oh, so I guess it's used for cinematic effect then.

The xbox one X version currently doesnt have it,.... and looks much better because of it.

Not all developers are equally good at using with stuff like motion blurr & dept of field.

Is it optional on the PS4?



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malistix1985 on 27 August 2017
JRPGfan said:
jardesonbarbosa said:

It looks the same to me. I know Xbox One X is better because everyone is saying it's better and because it's supposed to be better, but apart from some blood on her face, I really can't see any big difference. I'm more interested in 60 fps gaming, will the Xbox One X be the first console to deliver that?

The PS4 version runs it at 60fps too... but in the most demanding area's it can drop to the 50-55fps range.

Thats not really true, its more the game can hit 60fps when looking at the air and usually drop between 35-50 (average about 46) fps and be very unstable

: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esz7gfm4rcM

The xbox one x offers the same modes as ps4 so we have to see how the one x can hold 60fps




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VGPolyglot on 27 August 2017
CGI-Quality said:
VGPolyglot said:

What does that mean, exactly?

https://digital-photography-school.com/understanding-depth-field-beginners/

A good place to start for the non-tech savvy.

Thanks!!



JRPGfan on 27 August 2017

These are both from a Normal PS4 (not a pro):




notice the differnce in dirt on her face (it comes down to how you played the level, or if you reloaded a save game, close to when you took it).

So those guys saying "yeah on the xbox one x, you notice more dirt on her face"  that might not be because of anything extra graphically, just gameplay by the guy that took the screenshots.

 

 

Now look at the compairsion again:

Forget the dirt on the face.

Its the textures of that artifact, and the stone table, and the texture of the clothes.

Thats where the upgrades show most for the xbox one x version.



Qwark on 29 August 2017
CGI-Quality said:
Qwark said:
While the Xone X version supports 2160p and HDR, so naturally it looks miles beyond the pro version. Unless that gets HDR support too. Because the difference between full 1080p and 2160p are very much visible but not mind blowing to me. Unlike HDR which really let's a game shine.

But it's not the HDR and 4K image that puts the X version ahead by a lot. Rather, the additonal texture work that no other version has seen. The resolution is one thing, but when individual graphics are improved, it gives off a considerably better representation of the material. That's not necessarily a result of hardware, but more of time and optimization.

I would argue that HDR support makes a huge difference way bigger than most give it credit for, it may not use much processing power but HDR does improve PQ quite drastically. R&C and Horizon especially profit from the inclusion of HDR and make them look way better. Colours and lightening in genral just look way better with HDR on instead of off. So if the Xone X is the only version with HDR support by definition it would look a lot better on my tv. The additional textures are also nice and it seems to be the most polished version of Tomb Raider yet. 



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

d21lewis on 29 August 2017
Qwark said:
CGI-Quality said:

But it's not the HDR and 4K image that puts the X version ahead by a lot. Rather, the additonal texture work that no other version has seen. The resolution is one thing, but when individual graphics are improved, it gives off a considerably better representation of the material. That's not necessarily a result of hardware, but more of time and optimization.

I would argue that HDR support makes a huge difference way bigger than most give it credit for, it may not use much processing power but HDR does improve PQ quite drastically. R&C and Horizon especially profit from the inclusion of HDR and make them look way better. Colours and lightening in genral just look way better with HDR on instead of off. So if the Xone X is the only version with HDR support by definition it would look a lot better on my tv. The additional textures are also nice and it seems to be the most polished version of Tomb Raider yet. 

It really does. Was playing Uncharted LL yesterday with the HDMI running through the PSVR (which doesn't support hdr) and certain parts looked dark. I switched the HDMI and so many details popped up. It's really the first time I saw such a drastic difference. I had my 4K since November but I never really realized how big of a difference it made.