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Cerebralbore101 on 27 August 2017
fatslob-:O said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Yeah and what is the MTBF of physical games? If your pirated copy corrupts you are also out of luck. What's to stop people from sharing digital PS4 files long after PSN for the PS4 goes down, in the same way that people share pirated games? What's to stop poeple from getting around any built in EULA features in the future, for either PC or PS4 games released now? 

So what you're saying is, that historians could easily copy the digital version of a PS4 game from a harddrive. But every PS4 has a digital version on the harddrive. Once the disk is inserted the PS4 works on saving the entire game to the harddrive. 

@Bold Probably no more than half a century ... 

As for the pirated copy getting corrupt you don't need to worry about that since propogation of data can go uncontrolled ... (Square Enix had to reverse engineer some of the retail copies of their PS2 games to be able to remaster for the PS4. There's beauty to be had in pirating too I guess if the original source is dead.) 

Yes historians could copy the contents of the PS4 game from it's hard drive ... (providing if the hard drive lasts that long and depending on the law of a nation too)

That basically proves that there's no need to pirate modern console games for the sake of preservation. They were able to take the files from the old PS2 discs, and re-release the game based on that alone. 



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vivster on 27 August 2017
JRPGfan said:
vivster said:
Meh. How's the PS4 emulator coming?

No idea. But Ive heard with firmware version 3.00 on the switch, they forgot to add some protections or such, and hackers are having a field day.

Basically Switch Emulator might be out sooner than the PS4 one.

That would also be cool.



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fatslob-:O on 27 August 2017
Cerebralbore101 said:

That basically proves that there's no need to pirate modern console games for the sake of preservation. They were able to take the files from the old PS2 discs, and re-release the game based on that alone. 

TBH, I'm not sure if they actually got the discs or downloaded them but for them I'm sure it's no issue eiher way ... (afterall they hold rights to the copyrighted content)



JRPGfan on 27 August 2017
vivster said:
JRPGfan said:

No idea. But Ive heard with firmware version 3.00 on the switch, they forgot to add some protections or such, and hackers are having a field day.

Basically Switch Emulator might be out sooner than the PS4 one.

That would also be cool.

I think I heard (youtube video I saw) they were already able to do stuff like : add dlc, rip iso's, edit saves, move saves ect.

Its still doesnt mean a switch emulator is around the corner,... could still be 10years before we see one.



LurkerJ on 27 August 2017

As for how "clean" emulation is... let's be honest here and put potential piracy related issues aside, Nintendo aren't funding and making these exclusives just so that you play them on your PC.

A huge part of the reason why they fund these first party titles is to make us, gamers, buy the hardware. If that wasn't the case, we'd have Nintendo games officially released on PC and other platforms. Personally, I think it hurts Nintendo's business to emulate their games if it's stopping you from buying the hardware.

To illustrate this point further, I doubt SONY funded Bloodborne development with the sole intent of selling just the game, they want me to buy a PS4 as well. Another example that I have to mention is the Halo franchise, Halo games are made exclusively to the Xbox, despite the fact that MS would've benefited regardless of what platform you choose to play the game on, they wanted you to buy Xbox consoles so they can expand the userbase.

One can make the case that emulating first party games and third-party games funded by hardware manufactures isn't the "right thing to do", and I wouldn't disagree. 



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last92 on 27 August 2017

Uhm. We have a very different idea of what "perfect emulation" should be, I suppose.
I'd bet frame rate is awful during normal gameplay. Why would anyone want to play this on pc anyway? It's not a game where graphics matter and we won't get graphical enhancements on ps3 emulator. Totally useless. pcsx2 and dophin were great emulators since they allowed to play old games while noticeably increasing visual quality. Especially for the Wii, playing at low definition when 1080p was becoming a standard was very painful and dolphin was a godsend. Many games also benefited immensely from the higher res, like zelda ss. On the contrary, ps3 emu is so bad that in the best case scenario games will play at the same quality of the ps3 version and you also need a pretty decent pc to achieve that. It's just a tool to let people play pirated games...or to let irrational console haters play console games on pc so that they can satisfy a twisted need to prove to themselves that they don't need a console, maybe.



Cerebralbore101 on 27 August 2017
LurkerJ said:

As for how "clean" emulation is... let's be honest here and put potential piracy related issues aside, Nintendo aren't funding and making these exclusives just so you play them on your PC.

A huge part of the time they spend developing their software is that making us, gamers, buy the hardware. If that wasn't the case, we'd have Nintendo games officially released on PC and other platforms. Personally, I think it hurts Nintendo's business to emulate their games if it's stopping you from buying the hardware.

To illustrate this point further, I doubt SONY funded Bloodborne development with the sole intent of selling just the game, they want me to buy a PS4 as well. Another example that I have to mention is the Halo franchise, Halo games were made exclusively to the Xbox, despite the fact that MS would've benefited regardless of what platform you choose to play the game on, they wanted you to buy Xbox consoles so they can expand the userbase.

One can make the case that emulating first party games and third-party games funded by hardware manufactures isn't the "right thing to do", and I wouldn't disagree. 

Most companies will break their budget just to get a game good enough to move systems. So when you someone isn't buying both the game *and* the console in order to play an exclusive they are still hurting the business of making games. 



Cerebralbore101 on 27 August 2017

zero129 said:

And the is millions of cunts who buy the console to pirate them games on said consoles, many more then who pirate on an emu so whats your point?.

Face it this is not about piracy here with you. its about the fact Persona 5 can now be played on another system. Am i a cunt for playing a game i own on another system?.

Do you have anyway of backing that up? 



Azuren on 27 August 2017
fatslob-:O said:
Azuren said:

You had to refresh in the 10 seconds between me posting that and realizing it was dumb, huh?

What ? 

FWIW, you were the one who brought up this 'preservation' topic on me ... 

Edit: Also why did you ghost edit ? 

Because I realized about ten seconds after posting that it was stupid :D



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Azuren on 27 August 2017
zero129 said:
Azuren said:

I don't like to generalize, but I don't ignore what the majority does. And emulators are used most often to freely play games someone doesn't own. Yes, emulators should be made for when the console fades away, but to say it needs to be ready before the console leaves? I feel working builds shouldn't be released to the public until the console itself has been discontinued.

 

"I wasn't going to buy it anyway" doesn't really hold up as an argument. Software is weird in that people can pour months of their lives into a digital little something. The disc isn't the game, the code is. In this sense, the code is the car that was manufactured. It's the cake that was baked. It's the fruits of their labor. Does it cost them anything when someone plays their game for free? Well, no. But is it fair that someone just ignores the work put into the game (nevermind the laws protecting it) and doesn't give credit where it's due? Game studios do continue making money on the game after it goes on the market- they weren't paid a flat rate. They get bonuses and whatnot, and that depends on how the game sells. And honestly, I've seen what game development can do to someone and their family. It's intense, and they really do need to get as much as they can for that work.

 

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Gonna be honest, I misread the second paragraph as supporting the "wasn't gonna buy it anyway" argument, but had written all this already. Consider my second paragraph a PSA, not directed at you.

 

And I agree that emulation has a place that shouldn't be compromised by punks. I feel the losers who take things they don't pay for should pay through the nose in piracy fines to make examples of them. Without the kids who do mental gymnastics to defend taking someone else's work for free, emulation is a legitimate thing that is really important. But for every person like you who is concerned about keeping emulators as tools to enhance games they own, there's a hundred cunts who just want a game without having to buy the game and/or the console it's on.

And the is millions of cunts who buy the console to pirate them games on said consoles, many more then who pirate on an emu so whats your point?.

Face it this is not about piracy here with you. its about the fact Persona 5 can now be played on another system. Am i a cunt for playing a game i own on another system?.

Why are you making this so personal and throwing accusations directly at me? I could just as easily go on a tirade about why you're really so interested in emulation, but I'm not. You're trying to make it personal, and at this point you have to realize that never works out for you on this forum.



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