What is giving MS more money XBox One or Windows 10 store? So no, but i agree there should be more vita games :)

Here's what I'm thinking...

PC is the bread and butter of this series and sales potential on X1 is very low. Also, its a Win10 exclusive so its primary goal is to get more people on that OS.

OR...

If it was announced on X1 as well people would assume its a dumbed down console game RTS. Frankly, its a logical move. MAYBE X1 will get a port later if at all.

Why making Xbox consoles at this point then, the market isnt there by your logic?

There is no excuse to not make an Xbox One port, the console is a PC. Look at Trpico 5 the PS4 version sold 25% of t´what the PC version sold for the Physcal release only. What you except doesnt matter, the fact that Sudden strike was ported to PS4 is pretty much proof that it is profitable. There is tons of RTS games coming for consoles like Iron harvest

I've played a lot of C&C and Halo Wars on consoles, its totally playable.

I'm not gonna argue its the best, but enoyable enough for those that enjoy RTS more casually.

Like I said, it works.It plays.But speaking from 12 years of experience with SC, where to actually have a chance against someone good, you need to have reflexes as fast as the speed of light(in another words, needs to issue commands really fast, at a speed that only a mouse can provide) and a thousand different hotkeys to be able to compete.Something that a controller can never provide.

I think that an RTS designed for KB+M will sell better only on PC, rather than RTS designed for gamepad on both PC and Xbox.

Did you just try to misunderstand what I said? Nowhere did I imply there's no market for Xbox consoles. It should be obvious I meant there's not very much market for RTS games on consoles. And to elaborate, I meant it's just not worth the effort because the market is probably so small. The vast majority of the game's sales are probably going to be on PC anyway, and there's not much profit to be made on Xbox. The Xbox audience is unlikely to care much about RTS games anyway, so leaving them without one is not going to cost much goodwill either.

However, developing an Xbox version simultaneously would take some effort and could thus affect the development process, would cost some goodwill of the PC audience that's already feeling quite neflected by MS, and would make a lot of people think the console version might affect some design choices in the game in an undesirable way (i.e. players would feel like the Xbox version might cause the game to be dumbed down, which is considered especially bad in strategy games). Additionally, MS might feel like the game's not a guaranteed hit even on PC, so they might want to test the waters a bit on the game's strongest platform before even considering a release that probably won't do very much good.

All in all, there's just very little to gain by releasing an Xbox version straight away, but doing so might cause problems for the more important PC version.

In what relevant sense do you consider Xbox One to be a PC? Depending on the point of view chosen, you could argue it's PC-ness either way. You should elaborate if you think that's an important point.

Also, PS4 has a much larger userbase, which instantly invalidates your point about the PS4 version's sales (which, by the way, were similar to Halo Wars 2's, which didn't do too well).

Nobody is suggesting gamepad players should compete against KB+M players.

However, people can get pretty good with gamepads and compete with others also using a gamepad.

Because it's still exclusive to the MS division of gaming?.

There are exclusives that are on Xbox that Phil hasn't tossed to PC (yet). I don't see why both sides can't have their own exclusives. The RTS genre is pretty much a perfect fit for PC as well as the genre having come from it.

There also happens to be millions of PC gamers out there, bigger than the 30m on Xbox. if they aim for both Steam and Win 10 store, they can easily make bank.

You can play a certain type of RTS on consoles, but not every RTS under the sun will work well with one,e specially gamepad wise. Look at C&C RA3, C&C 3 and KW,, all 3 of those had to have a command wheel designed for the gamepad, on it's own the gamepad isn't going to cut it, while with a M+K you don't need any special wheel or UI design that's out of the ordinary of what you already see on PC.

I honestly don't get why you push this each and every time PC gets something.

Well it's a PC franchise and they would have to dumb it down to make it work on consoles. It kind of funny though to think that the only true exclusive they may release for the rest of gen isn't on Xbox.