At least John McCain has the balls to call it what it is:

well if you say you don't support them I don't understand why we have to state the obvious.  It's like when politicians make a big deal out of supporting the troops or loving america.  Like "ok you all do" I don't need to hear it 20 times it's just redundant and doesn't give me anything new. 

and besides even if he's doing what you say (which isn't how I'm reading it) they gotta vote for someone so you may as well take their votes and then ignore them

That's a convenient way of putting it. What makes you say they won't kill you when way back in the electorial campaigns one tried to light a person's hair during a debate?

and what is "true" communism?

Post about people being driver over by a car.

"the left is gonna milk this".

You know, there's a time and place for everything, but your post is extremely ill-placed. And just for the record, this wasn't a case of a largely peaceful protest with minor incidents. It's a mid-sized protest with a lot of incidents. There might have been some more moderate people amongst the protestors, but it's pretty clear a lot of them are basically a bunch of neo-nazis who have no qualms with throwing punches.

I will admit I was unfair by what I said. However, there's still a difference between lighting someone's hair and going 40 mph into a large crowd. :/

Do I approve of either one? No, but the severity is still different in both scenarios. I dislike racists and ANTIFA, but what I hate more than these groups are violence.

It's unfortunate. We have pure nazis and racists running around as we deal with a rather ugly mess. You never get anything good when you have a group of people who idolize Hitler.

True communism is textbook communism I suppose. It sounds good in theory, but unfortunately a government is needed to maintain it. Once you have a government, eventually corruption grows to make it stray away from 'true' communism

Yeah, because organized alt-right meetings hosted by the very man who claims to have coined the phrase "alt right" do not errupt into "Hail Trump" "Hail victory" (Sieg Heil) nazi poses?



Of course these people were immediately asked to stop and escorted out of the building....
Just kidding.

They take advantage of gullible people who believe that they're only fighting for a just cause. That's how they frame it in the beginning. They're not going to get many members by promoting violence on Day 1. But they're either brainwashed into it, or they take advantage of the votes of the "peaceful" extreme right wings to grow their real agenda. That's their goal.

And now the closet Nazis are going to throw this driver under the buss in public and pretend that he's an "anomaly". But really, he's an exemplication of the ideal Nazi, a martyr for their cause. Alt-right promotes Nazi. Nazi promotes violence.

The former leader of your party for example was caught singing white supremasist songs, and one where they jokingly mocked the murder of Olof Palme. Why do you think these people are the ones who end up in charge? What do you think they really want to do with the support they get, when this is what they do behind closed doors? Anyone who sings along in a song like that is not a good person. And the agenda of the party is 100x more vicious than the one they present to the public.

...when have they ever felt compelled to do that?  You can literally find some YouTube political videos discussing the justification of 'punching deh natzees' at your own leisure.  Hell, the disparity between MSM's handling of the GOP baseball field shooting and the Gifford's shooting doesn't really show me some honest left-wing willing to apologize, EDIT: or should I say anywhere near the level you're portraying it.

Hail Hitler , hail trump was what slimebeast said when trump won elections, and got banned for it.

After all that has been said and done, I think you missed the point people in this position we're trying to make. Nobody will support their obscene behaviours(viloence and hatred). Doesn't matter if you're Antifa or Nazis. I'll condemned both for their acts, not their ideology just because I simply disagree on their morality.

Discussion should have been the way to go, but once again people are not willing to make the effort to discuss each other beliefs  to maybe strike a cognitive dissonance into their minds which can result in a questionning of their own beliefs or simply a better mutual understanding of each other.

But hey, it's so easy to pull the trigger instead ...

These people showed up armed, and drove a car into a crowd of people.

Since it seems very hard for you to understand, let me spell it out for you: fascists aren't interested in having a discussion, they want power.

Give them a place at the table and they will shoot you dead.

How do I know? Because that's how they've taken over my country in the past.

When given a place in government, they took over and proceded to cleanse all dissenting.

Fascism isn't interested, by design, in civility, but only in getting power and silencing dissent.

Fascist resistance isn't only necessary, it's a moral imperative. 

I want to stress it: this has already happened.

I've seen the places where the partisan resistance have been shot as criminals.

I've studied the voices of dissent, shot as criminals.

I've been told of common townsfolk, shot as criminals.

There is no middle ground.

You either condemn fascism or you are facilitating it happening.

To you, and again to anyone equiparating fascist violence to resistance to fascism:

You are ignorant of history, you are ignorant of the suffering of millions. You are fascist symphatizers.