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Forums - Politics - White Supremacist Drives Car into Counter-Protesters (20 Injured, One Dead)

Azuren on 12 August 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Azuren said:

I was actually just thinking that, being a southern city, there's a good chance he'd been day-drinking.

Yeah, that's a possibility. But possible and probable are two different things.

Well, like I said, I'm pretty sure this was an intentional attack. I'm just disappointed that the media is already writing a narrative when we don't have a definitive motive.

monocle_layton said:
Azuren said:

"Being" a Nazi isn't dangerous. It's hurtful to others' emotions, yes, but emotions aren't protected by law. Running over people with a car is dangerous, which is why this man will go to jail regardless of pretense. Things that are actually dangerous get punished, while things that hurt feelings are not.

 

This is because, just like they have the right to vote, you have the right to ignore.

 

And as a father, I would LOVE a pro-pedophilia rally: anything to get a bunch of them in one place, you know what I'm saying? #FishInABarrel

 

I think our disagreement here stems from the fact that I believe freedom of speech means no one has the right to silence you. Even if you ideas are monstrous, no one can stop you from sharing them short of breaking the law themselves.

The only thing stopping them from being dangerous is the fact that they're a minority.

 

And probably the law.



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o_O.Q on 12 August 2017
poklane said:
o_O.Q said:

the other side:

pretending that only one side commits violent acts is fucking silly

i suppose you can make the argument that so far no one has been killed due to violence from leftist supporters

You know what's fucking silly? Comparing a guy getting hit in the head to a guy driving his car into a crowd of people. You're comparing an act of violence with an act of terrorism.

what's the difference between "an act of violence" and "an act of terrorism" in this given context?

as far as i'm concerned what motivated both acts is the same - seeing the other group of people as the devil and as a result taking any action you want to cower them into submission



ratuscafoarterea on 12 August 2017
poklane said:
o_O.Q said:

the other side:

pretending that only one side commits violent acts is fucking silly

i suppose you can make the argument that so far no one has been killed due to violence from leftist supporters

You know what's fucking silly? Comparing a guy getting hit in the head to a guy driving his car into a crowd of people. You're comparing an act of violence with an act of terrorism.

That's not the only act of agresion that ANTIFA did in states .....



jason1637 on 12 August 2017
VGPolyglot said:
jason1637 said:

Its better to have a peaceful protest. You can't fight fire with fire. The civil rights movement is a great example of this. If there weren't peaceful protest I doubt that segregation would have ended when it did.

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You say that you can't fight fire with fire, but you also can't just fight fire by just standing there and letting it engulf you.

The thing is that you're not letting it engulf you. If you do a peaceful protest you're showing that large groups of people don't accept extremist and violent views and when you continue doing this you spread the a good message and it will spread and more people will join your cause. Violence isnt the answer. Using violence to fight back against extremists or violent views puts you in the same boat as those people.

ClassicGamingWizzz said:

 

Trumps America

 

 

Keep defending these cunts, you guys are such winners !!!

 

What does this have to do with Trump? Things like this happened while other people were President.



barneystinson69 on 12 August 2017
jason1637 said:
VGPolyglot said:

You say that you can't fight fire with fire, but you also can't just fight fire by just standing there and letting it engulf you.

The thing is that you're not letting it engulf you. If you do a peaceful protest you're showing that large groups of people don't accept extremist and violent views and when you continue doing this you spread the a good message and it will spread and more people will join your cause. Violence isnt the answer. Using violence to fight back against extremists or violent views puts you in the same boat as those people.

ClassicGamingWizzz said:

 

Trumps America

 

 

Keep defending these cunts, you guys are such winners !!!

 

What does this have to do with Trump? Things like this happened while other people were President.

Because Trump is to blame for everything stupid people do...



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Soundwave on 12 August 2017
barneystinson69 said:
jason1637 said:

The thing is that you're not letting it engulf you. If you do a peaceful protest you're showing that large groups of people don't accept extremist and violent views and when you continue doing this you spread the a good message and it will spread and more people will join your cause. Violence isnt the answer. Using violence to fight back against extremists or violent views puts you in the same boat as those people.

What does this have to do with Trump? Things like this happened while other people were President.

Because Trump is to blame for everything stupid people do...

Because a lot of the white supremasists cite Trump as an inspiration. 

The mayor of Charlottesville, Michael Signer, even flat out said it today:

"I'm not going to make any bones about it. I place the blame for a lot of what you're seeing in America today right at the doorstep of the White House and the people around the President."

At the very least he deserves criticism for being very weak on this issue when he has no bones about denouncing other trivial things like a department stores refusing to carry his daughter's clothing line or harping on other kinds of terrorism while being very muted about white supremasists. 



Soundwave on 12 August 2017

At least John McCain has the balls to call it what it is:

Maybe President Cowardly Lion will take some notes on how to be a leader in a situation like this. 



WolfpackN64 on 12 August 2017
jason1637 said:
WolfpackN64 said:
The police should have never allowed both protests to occur. It was pretty clear from the onset the marchers weren't going to be cuddly, level headed people who wanted a democratic discussion.

But the protest was peaceful until the guy hit drove a car into the ground.

There were reports of fistfights, gas attacks and people throwing objects the whole day of the protest before the accident happened. This thing went out of hand as soon as it started. The police should always do a risk assesment before they greenlight a march or protest and they failed.



LadyJasmine on 12 August 2017

However, Obama calling out racism and issues with race relations did not do anything to make things better.

Not really his fault, but race relations got worse under Obama than worse.



Soundwave on 12 August 2017
LadyJasmine said:
However, Obama calling out racism and issues with race relations did not do anything to make things better.

Not really his fault, but race relations got worse under Obama than worse.

If only those uppity blacks wouldn't raise such a fuss over getting shot and killed by police for just walking down the street or selling CDs on a sidewalk or attempting to reach for their license and registration we could just get over this whole annoying racism thing.