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Forums - Politics - White Supremacist Drives Car into Counter-Protesters (20 Injured, One Dead)

o_O.Q said:
Soundwave said:

Yes, some of the civil rights movement was aggressive. Most of it required courage and bravery to stand up against yelling mobs that didn't want black people in schools or on buses. 

Against racism I don't think there is any singular magic bullet solution. It's a problem for society and will continue to be for the duration of our short time span on Earth. Things change, but it doesn't mean it happens on our schedule. I think in 100-200 years the concept of race will be rendered moot because of genetic engineering (ie: every parent will be able to select every physical trait of their child if they want, over time this will forever alter the human race). 

All I'm saying is life is not debate class. That is a notion of someone who probably has spent most of their life in a class room (I don't say that as an insult just a matter of fact, we have all been young and naive at some point). Read any history book and find me periods of human history where massive change occured on the back of a debate. 

 

my point was that beliefs and mindsets change through dialogue primarily in our current era and yes alternatively they are changed through violence, but that leads me to asking as i did before - what violent methods are you advoctaing to be used against white supremacists?

 

if you aren't advocting for violence against white supremacists, what options are you left with?

Sometimes violence is justified. I don't like violence, I'd rather it not be the case, but we don't live in a non-violent world of lollipops and rainbows either. That is a cartoon, that is not real life. 

I am perfectly fine with very large counter-protests that show very clearly to their ilk that they and their ideas are not welcome. 



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I don't care what your political stance is, ramming your car into peaceful protesters and other cars not caring about killing anyone is not excusable.



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

CGI-Quality said:
barneystinson69 said:

I don't know if the post is offensive in the sense, but the information is wrong.

"Declining demographic"..."blacks don't make enough babies"...

Sounds offensive to me, and on top of that, it's numerically incorrect.

Europe faces the same problem too, no one is calling that offencive. Information being wrong, certainly. But I doubt the post was mean't to be offencive.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Nymeria said:
Soundwave said:

What point in history did KKK/NeoNazi members not exist in a disparate reality? People need to stop acting like this is something new. It's not, it was just convienant and felt warm and fuzzy to pretend it was gone rather than face up the fact that this ugliness is still here and has been there. 

It will take another 100-200 years for it to really shift things to where they really ought to be, probably because by then genetic engineering of humans will render concepts like ethnic identity almost moot (that's another can of worms, but it does show the futiliy of "racial purists" ... they are on a bus headed off a cliff, they're just too stupid to see it coming). 

I never said it was new.  

It is cultivated when people have worldviews reinforced.  You will likely always have a certain percentage of extremists, but as a society you can foster discussion that dulls or reduces it, or you can stoke and strengthen it.  I think modern media has pushed for the latter over the former for profits.

The media is an easy scapegoat to take blame off people. I'm sorry but if you're a Nazi/KKK or even a sympathizer of said group to even a moderate degree ... the problem is that person's own shitty moral compass, not the news or that mommy didn't hug them enough or 1000 other things. 

We make our choices in life, our character is a reflection of those choices. 



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CGI-Quality said:
ratuscafoarterea said:

Let me put it on my gypsy English ....

blacks don't make enough babies ….. their numbers are in decline …

From where I'm sitting, this sounds offensive...

Really, what is so offensive? From what I've read the number of black Americans is in decline.



NATO said:
Soundwave said:

Sometimes violence is justified. 

No, it is absolutely not.

So, using violence for self-defense isn't justifiable?



ratuscafoarterea said:
CGI-Quality said:

From where I'm sitting, this sounds offensive...

Really, what is so offensive? From what I've read the number of black Americans is in decline.

Nope. No racial demographic group is in decline in the US.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

 

 



barneystinson69 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Eh, you cannot put BLM and the KKK in the same category. 

All of them promote violence one way or another. Of course one has a far worse more degrading and terrible history (KKK), but lets not say that BLM is a totally fair group. I mean they shot 6 police officers in Dallas a couple years back, and have spread violence too. Neither group helps unify America in any sort of fashion.

 

BLM does not promote hate. There might be a few hateful people but its definitely not a hate group like the KKK.