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VAMatt on 29 July 2017
spurgeonryan said:
VAMatt said:
All governments waste money. That's the only thing they're good at. So, if you want them to stop wasting tax money, you're going to need to abolish government.

But it on next years ballot and lets see what happens.

It is damn near impossible to get referenda on most ballots.  But, I do work everyday to abolish parts of government, with the end goal of eliminating the whole concept of the state.  



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sc94597 on 29 July 2017
vivster said:
Just another reason why taxes should be handled on the federal level. God I hate state rights.

Yeah so that they can be wasted on trillion dollar planes. 

http://time.com/money/4310099/f-35-budget-pay-free-college-student-loans/

Right... 

Tell me how many unitary states with populations greater than 320 million exist in the world? China? There is a reason why federalism exists, a few hundred people can't properly manage and represent the interests of large and diverse populations. 



Mr Puggsly on 29 July 2017
vivster said:
Just another reason why taxes should be handled on the federal level. God I hate state rights.

LOL, youre a funny guy. The federal government is terrible with money as well.

Government makes these problems and your solution is more government. How about reduce spending?



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palou on 29 July 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
vivster said:
Just another reason why taxes should be handled on the federal level. God I hate state rights.

LOL, youre a funny guy. The federal government is terrible with money as well.

Government makes these problems and your solution is more government. How about reduce spending?

Wait a few years (I'd say it could be done in 10), and put AI in charge of large parts of the government. Optimization/managment is something our current tech excels at, so it's just a few ethical details that need to be specified.



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palou on 29 July 2017
VAMatt said:
All governments waste money. That's the only thing they're good at. So, if you want them to stop wasting tax money, you're going to need to abolish government.

Or have AI to make decisions more efficient.



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Razeak on 29 July 2017

We could try communism. It always works.


Anyways, if they couldn't afford them before the new tax, why is the new tax the reason for the layoff?



Razeak on 29 July 2017
KLAMarine said:
Snoopy said:

The difference is we are forced to pay taxes or we are thrown in the government's cage.

You aren't forced to pay taxes. You could go live out in the wilderness away from the infrastructure paid for by taxes.

Snoopy said:

At least when a company waste money or an organization that's on them.

People still lose their jobs there.

Govt won't allow that. They find ways to force you. Primarily under threat of some form of violence. You can't even go into the wilderness. You get nailed for tresspassing on federal lands. You get nailed for fishing if you didn't pay the license fee(tax). Lots of stories of the years of people trying to do just what you suggest. Government will find d a way to hammer you if you do. Or you can rot away on a park bench. Taxes are absolutely forced.



DarthMetalliCube on 30 July 2017

Screw my state..



 

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KLAMarine on 30 July 2017
Razeak said:
KLAMarine said:

You aren't forced to pay taxes. You could go live out in the wilderness away from the infrastructure paid for by taxes.

People still lose their jobs there.

Govt won't allow that. They find ways to force you. Primarily under threat of some form of violence. You can't even go into the wilderness. You get nailed for tresspassing on federal lands. You get nailed for fishing if you didn't pay the license fee(tax). Lots of stories of the years of people trying to do just what you suggest. Government will find d a way to hammer you if you do. Or you can rot away on a park bench. Taxes are absolutely forced.

I imagine federal lands cost money to maintain as do bodies of water good for fishing so if you're not paying taxes, you're using resources you didn't put some money towards maintaining.

Go to Russia's immense land mass for wilderness.



sc94597 on 30 July 2017
KLAMarine said:
Razeak said:

Govt won't allow that. They find ways to force you. Primarily under threat of some form of violence. You can't even go into the wilderness. You get nailed for tresspassing on federal lands. You get nailed for fishing if you didn't pay the license fee(tax). Lots of stories of the years of people trying to do just what you suggest. Government will find d a way to hammer you if you do. Or you can rot away on a park bench. Taxes are absolutely forced.

I imagine federal lands cost money to maintain as do bodies of water good for fishing so if you're not paying taxes, you're using resources you didn't put some money towards maintaining.

Go to Russia's immense land mass for wilderness.

Correction: federal lands cost money to secure with illegitimate property claims against the common person. The land maintained itself for billions of years before the "United States of America" existed. The state did not homestead the land so they have no legitimate claim to restrict access to others who might.  But please continue with your insufferable state worship. I wonder, how did people hunt and fish before "The United States of America" came in to being?